The Returns of Cena & Sheamus

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There's a reason for that and what's that? No John Cena. Because nobody gets to flourish when he plays Superman and kicks everyones ass in record time. There's a reason they kept Shield and Cena away from each other all this time...because he always gets payback and does his stupid "Never give up" promo garbage promising victory.

Saw this in the RAW thread and it got me thinking. With both of them out because of injuries, IMO the product has gotten better and a little less predictable (sans the PPV spoilers that have started). Given the length of time both are out for, how are they going to be reincorporated into the product without it being reverted to everything being "Cena/Sheamus" wins?
 

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Sheamus being a heel will work, if he joins the Corporation, it'll work even better.

Cena will be interesting, if he's not going to be in the title picture they'll just feed him monsters to keep him busy. A feud with Bray Wyatt could be epic.
 

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It sucks without them. Randy Orton had one of the worst reigns in wwe history. He never came off as the champion, clearly HHH was the real champion and Orton was just holding the belt for him. Bryan is an excellent title chaser but as soon as he got the strap I didn't care about him anymore. ADR sucks, period. Cena is a superstar, he puts on classics and the same goes for Sheamus. Deal with it.
 

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Sheamus should come back as heel and be put in a feud with someone like Dolph or Cody. And maybe for once they can let him actually lose a feud to one of the guys that are not as booked as strong as he is. I'm pretty sure Cena will come back as the top dawg and probably get his rematch (that he never got because of injury) against Bryan or whoever holds the belt. And I can see them having him win the title again at Mania after a short chase. But after him not holding the belt for well over a year and then winning it from Rock nothing felt epic about it or extraordinary so I think they should keep him away from the title scene for a while and have him help guys like Bray and Cody get over. Then they can always book him in another match vs Ryback or a heel Sheamus for Mania. Cause I think we should see Punk vs Bryan for the title in an iron man match and I can see Triple H coming out of his hibernation to turn face again to battle Orton in a match we've seen to many times.
 

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That's what sucks about Cena & Sheamus. When you are given that specific level, it's almost impossible for you to lose. I don't have a problem with Cena using it, because he stresses in his promos a lot about being to overcome. Sheamus on the other hand, he was given it way too quickly. He has been in the E main roster since 2009?

Not to mention if your going to be a face, with a superhero gimmick. You need a villain, a really good villain. Hollywood Hulk Hogan, if he was in his prime, would be a excellent compliment to Cena. Cena would represent the current version, while Hogan would represent his vision, a more unsafe environment where the strong survive.

Orton, he really isn't main even level heelry. He is smug, cocky, confidence but he finds himself always struggling to carry a story. He is very high upper card, but for me he never is that man. Now on the other hand, a person who made a great heel for me was Batista. Maybe his ring work was not the best, but he could commit grand fukkery as a heel.

As for Sheamus, he needs to just go heel. His face push always feels forced, and it's not his irish background that is causing it. Its just his whole feel seems he needs to be roughhouse. Big Show shows easily why he can be a face, because he knows how to have that Teddy Bear feeling.

For Bryan right now, even though I stans for him, I do think it's time for him to shave the beard down. Time to embrace the dark submission arts. Embrace this mindset of a Ankle Lock when Kurt Angle was at the top. One he locks it in, your fukked, end of story. Teach the story to the crowd, is that the last place you want Bryan is on the ground. Have him go off, and nearly straggle a Shield member to death; gasping for air, while the refs try to break it up.
 

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One thing we do know..Cena never gets beat down for too long without a payback coming up almost instantly...the Undertaker usually puts him down when they come across each other but that's what? Every 6 years now. We are probably past the "beat down the faces" every week portion. They'll have to be set up and isolated now to get them laid out. Sheamus may turn heel though because he has no legs as a face right now...dude looked like he was gonna cry on that Raw where Cena chose Bryan to be his opponent and everyone booed him like he didn't mean shyt:laugh:
 

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That's what sucks about Cena & Sheamus. When you are given that specific level, it's almost impossible for you to lose. I don't have a problem with Cena using it, because he stresses in his promos a lot about being to overcome. Sheamus on the other hand, he was given it way too quickly. He has been in the E main roster since 2009?

Not to mention if your going to be a face, with a superhero gimmick. You need a villain, a really good villain. Hollywood Hulk Hogan, if he was in his prime, would be a excellent compliment to Cena. Cena would represent the current version, while Hogan would represent his vision, a more unsafe environment where the strong survive.

Orton, he really isn't main even level heelry. He is smug, cocky, confidence but he finds himself always struggling to carry a story. He is very high upper card, but for me he never is that man. Now on the other hand, a person who made a great heel for me was Batista. Maybe his ring work was not the best, but he could commit grand fukkery as a heel.

As for Sheamus, he needs to just go heel. His face push always feels forced, and it's not his irish background that is causing it. Its just his whole feel seems he needs to be roughhouse. Big Show shows easily why he can be a face, because he knows how to have that Teddy Bear feeling.

For Bryan right now, even though I stans for him, I do think it's time for him to shave the beard down. Time to embrace the dark submission arts. Embrace this mindset of a Ankle Lock when Kurt Angle was at the top. One he locks it in, your fukked, end of story. Teach the story to the crowd, is that the last place you want Bryan is on the ground. Have him go off, and nearly straggle a Shield member to death; gasping for air, while the refs try to break it up.

Following in the footsteps of Kurt Angle is not gonna draw any money....Bryan was better than Kurt Angle for the last 8 years. You people never watched him. Angle is a cute WWE style worker that loved to emulate Chris Benoit and his counter submission styles but Bryan has MUCH, MUCH more submission knowledge and is just doing what works right now. If they do have that Iron Man match, he's gonna make Blandy look like a goddamn novice in there.
 

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Following in the footsteps of Kurt Angle is not gonna draw any money....Bryan was better than Kurt Angle for the last 8 years. You people never watched him. Angle is a cute WWE style worker that loved to emulate Chris Benoit and his counter submission styles but Bryan has MUCH, MUCH more submission knowledge and is just doing what works right now. If they do have that Iron Man match, he's gonna make Blandy look like a goddamn novice in there.
Hes only really wrestled a WWE style though. Hes a WWE guy. What would you have him do? Incorporate strong style into his style? He'd be an olympic Taz. If he wasnt a WWE guy his matches with Joe wouldnt have came off as well as they did.s

As for Bryan, they need a bonafide monster heel to push like ROH pushed Morishima against him. Ryback would have been perfect but he is unsafe so Sheamus will have to do.
 

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It wouldn't matter. To say he's more cultured and better at pro wrestling than a guy that has been tete to tete with the best of Japan and Mexico? That's kind of absurd. Now this place has shown an incredible bias towards WWE type matches..that's what that whole "Kliq" thing is about, right? So act like you're all open now to seeing it all after making blanket statements is rather incredulous.

Joe can wrestle any type of worker..he was having 5 Star matches. Angle's closest was with Benoit at Rumble 03 once upon a time. Everything else has been superman kick outs and top rope spots and shyt like that..things that gets pops but looks rather ridiculous after you gotten your ass kicked for 20 minutes and just Undertaker it up and get the comeback of the century in record time. He's nowhere near the long term seller of traveled guys like Bryan or Punk..he never was.
 

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Sheamus was beating people like 3 Man Band and shyt. Muhfukkas complain about anything.
 

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It would be great if Cena was given the spot Punk has now and starts working with all the new guys. It's never gonna happen but having a strong Cena feud in the uppermidcard (not closing every PPV) would be very interesting. I know people would still bytch because he would win 99% of his matches but if you put him against new people and not in the main event, there's not a lot you can lose. Oh well :manny:
 
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