The unemployment rate is way higher then 4.1 percent. The actual rate is 24 percent and black people are impacted the most.

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“Despite federal reports suggesting a stable labor market, new data from the Ludwig Institute for Shared Economic Prosperity (LISEP) reveals a far grimmer reality for American workers—particularly Black and Hispanic Americans. The institute’s April report on the True Rate of Unemployment (TRU) shows a functional unemployment rate of 24.3%, compared to the official Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) figure of 4.2%. The numbers mark the third consecutive month that functional unemployment has surpassed 24%, according to LISEP, which defines functional unemployment as the combined total of those without jobs, those unable to secure full-time employment, and those earning poverty-level wages—less than $20,000 per year adjusted for inflation. “We are facing a job market where nearly one in four workers are functionally unemployed, and current trends show little sign of improvement,” said LISEP Chair Gene Ludwig. “The harsh reality is that far too many Americans are still struggling to make ends meet.”

Racial and gender disparities remain wide. Black workers saw a 1.4 percentage point increase in their TRU to 26.7%, while White workers experienced a slight decrease to 23%. The rate for Hispanic workers climbed to 28.2%, maintaining the highest among reported groups. A persistent gender gap also emerged in the data: functional unemployment for men rose to 20%, while women—though showing a slight improvement—still face a significantly higher rate at 28.6%. Beyond labor force disparities, BLS statistics further indicate a disproportionate impact on Black Americans. The unemployment rate for Black men remains at 6.3%, more than double that of White men. Meanwhile, since September, approximately 181,000 Black women have dropped out of the labor force entirely, even as participation rates among women of other racial groups have increased. The origins of this exodus stretch back to 2020 when millions of working mothers—particularly women of color—left the workforce amid the collapse of childcare infrastructure during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Many have yet to return due to ongoing issues with affordability and accessibility. LISEP’s white paper, “Measuring Better,” outlines significant flaws in headline economic indicators such as GDP and BLS unemployment rates, labeling them misleading and outdated. Instead, LISEP advocates for measures that reflect the lived economic realities of most Americans—particularly those in working- and middle-class communities that have long been left behind by policy and prosperity. According to the paper, the methodology behind TRU includes only those working full-time and earning above poverty wages as “employed.” It excludes part-time workers who would prefer full-time employment and those earning less than $20,000 per year. This approach, LISEP argues, provides policymakers with a more accurate understanding of economic well-being and informs better decision-making for resource allocation. “The public would be well served by a commitment from economic policymakers to adopt a stable course of action, based on real-world metrics, that better serves the interests of working Americans,” Ludwig said.
 

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Are these the tangibles i hear so much about? :mjgrin:

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We asked Kamala for tangibles and she said No.......so "No tangibles, No vote":

 

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From that very article:

This is like when people say we are in a recession just because they can't get a job. The article is literally, without saying it, that people are underemployed with an ever-increasing cost of basic living expenses. If you are working, YOU ARE NOT UMEMPLOYED FUNCTIONALLY OR OTHERWISE. This is a bum ass augmentation of a real problem: Some people can't find jobs. Some people can't find jobs in their field. Some people find jobs but never make enough to secure a meaningful living. The latter two are more common, the former is real but not to the degree this article is arguing.

Tell a person working 32 hours and having to hop on Uber they are "Basically unemployed". Nah, they are grossly underpaid. No need to fancy it up.
 
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25% was during the great depression, no way it's 24% right now
the number includes those who make less than $20,000 a year and people who work part time who have indicated they want to work full time.

This is actually a much better way to track poverty among adults. A lot of these people rely on the social safety net to survive and Trump and his cocksucker‘s in Congress just cut most of it to ribbons.
 

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From that very article:


This is like when people say we are in a recession just because they can't get a job. The article is literally, without saying it, that people are underemployed with an ever-increasing cost of basic living expenses. If you are working, YOU ARE NOT UMEMPLOYED FUNCTIONALLY OR OTHERWISE. This is a bum ass augmentation of a real problem: Some people can't find jobs. Some people can't find jobs in their field. Some people find jobs but never make enough to secure a meaningful living. The latter two are more common, the former is real but not to the degree this article is arguing.

Tell a person working 32 hours and having to hop on Uber they are "Basically umemployed". Nah, they are grossly underpaid. No need to fancy it up.
Like I said this would be a better way to track poverty. There is a term “the working poor” that needs to be used more in America. Many people call it the working class, but that is a catchphrase that doesn’t really mirror the reality that people can work their asses off and still be living in poverty.

Trump loves to hype up the gilded age and completely ignores how the transfer of wealth to the richest 1% led to the Great Depression. I think we are experiencing stagflation that will become an economic depression before he is out of office.
 

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From that very article:


This is like when people say we are in a recession just because they can't get a job. The article is literally, without saying it, that people are underemployed with an ever-increasing cost of basic living expenses. If you are working, YOU ARE NOT UMEMPLOYED FUNCTIONALLY OR OTHERWISE. This is a bum ass augmentation of a real problem: Some people can't find jobs. Some people can't find jobs in their field. Some people find jobs but never make enough to secure a meaningful living. The latter two are more common, the former is real but not to the degree this article is arguing.

Tell a person working 32 hours and having to hop on Uber they are "Basically umemployed". Nah, they are grossly underpaid. No need to fancy it up.
Ehh if you have a reduction of hrs you are eligible for unemployment. If I go from 40 to 32, I may be eligible for unemployment if I don't make a ton of money.
 
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