The whole women submitting dilemma

[The Realist Perspective]

Many times women say they will submit to the right man that show he can lead well.

How is this possible when the man is being tasked to lead a woman that is difficult to be lead out the gate? Is that a fair assessment of his capabilities? This can easily be a source of troubles / head butting.

Wouldn't it be better, if a woman chooses to be with a man, she submits first, observes his leadership skills, if it's not up to par in her opinion, she bounces? If it is up to par, she remains with him and remains submissive?

The other way is counterproductive and causes issues on the forefront.

Discuss.

 

[SheWantTheD]

How long till this is merged with the KS thread lol.

Honestly, in my opinion.. if a woman acts one way with one man and treats another man differently (referring to romantic relationships) then who is she really?

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

I think this conversation is starting to become way too complex.

Women should submit to the man they choose to be with (submit means trust him to lead, nothing more nothing less).

If she doesn't want to submit, then we as men should let her go.

It's literally that simple. If I had a belligerent rambunctious rabblerousing woman, I would throw her back to the streets. I've done it before.

Had a chic who claimed she wanted me but every single conversation turned into an argument. She was just one of those masculine women (in the sense that she just was argumentative and non feminine).

I had to let her go. It's really that simple

Find one that is willing to be what you want her to be

 

[Joe Budden]

 

[analog]

People get hung up on these broad notions of who is supposed to do what, too much.

Work on yourself, and towards your goals. Let someone into your life so long as they compliment your objectives.

All of this trying to force a square peg into a round hole is pointless and needs to stop.

 

[Mr. Glass]

I hate how you nikkas call anything positive masculine anything negative feminine.

 

[Vandelay]

Define being difficult?

This might be a tough pill to swallow, but not every man is worth submitting to. Not saying it's the exact right way to go about things, but a lot of women shyt test men to see if they are worth being with. Hence, the notion of some women actually like being checked.

The problems arise when people choose to stay in bullshyt relationships because they aren't content with being alone.

If a woman is being perpetually combative or a dude really doesn't have the skills to lead the relationship such as ambition, tenacity and foresight, one or both should choose to mutually part ways.

 

[Treblemaka]

Too many men can barely lead themselves let alone expect submission from a woman. They have no sense of direction, no strength of resolve, little discipline, seek to consume rather than produce, and blown about by what ever new doctrine is trending at the time.

Too many women grew up without a father figure, so they don't see the value of a good strong man and thus don't see a purpose in submission.

Most men and women don't know that submission is not dominance and fewer and fewer of us grew up in a two parent home where that was healthily practiced to understand it properly.

Women like winners, if you're not moving in your purpose don't expect respect and admiration from a woman.

Respect and admiration are the basis of healthy submission.

 

[Diondon]

These things should iron themself out throughout the courting period lol
If the woman is belligerent = dip
If the man is weak sauce = well, the woman has a decision to make
She can stay and run a sucka
or dip for a more competent leader