The Wizards taking Jan Vesley over Kawhi Leonard

[FAH1223]

Remember this three years ago?

To this:

#SoWizards

Fukk you Ernie Grunfeld And fukk the coaching staff

 

[Malta]

The Wiz messed up but at least they have actual NBA starters at the 3 spot, the Pacers have to be absolutely sick to their stomachs looking at George Hill & his contract, knowing Kawhi was theirs and they gave him away for a backup.

 

[FAH1223]

The Wiz messed up but at least they have actual NBA starters at the 3 spot, the Pacers have to be absolutely sick to their stomachs looking at George Hill & his contract, knowing Kawhi was theirs and they gave him away for a backup.

Otto Porter gotta show something He has high bball IQ

I hope he develops

 

[Malta]

Otto Porter gotta show something He has high bball IQ

I hope he develops

Still have Ariza if he doesn't, but the Pacers looking at Kawhi like

 

[FAH1223]

Still have Ariza if he doesn't, but the Pacers looking at Kawhi like

true... hopefully we get rid of Webster to keep Ariza

But the Pacers

George would still be an SG though

 

[Malta]

true... hopefully we get rid of Webster to keep Ariza

But the Pacers

George would still be an SG though

Their perimeter defense would be legendary, they'd have capspace to throw at Lowry or Bledsoe this summer too.

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

The Wiz messed up but at least they have actual NBA starters at the 3 spot, the Pacers have to be absolutely sick to their stomachs looking at George Hill & his contract, knowing Kawhi was theirs and they gave him away for a backup.

Well, looking at it, you can't really blame them. They had Granger who was still injury free and a 20+ scorer and a young Paul George at the 3. They lacked any sort of play at the 1 (and 2) other than Darren Collison

And Hill was a rising player with the Spurs.

 

[No..Money..Mo..Problems]

To be honest Kawhi didn't really wow anyone at San Diego state. His jumpshot was broke and he looked to be a tweaner. If he was drafted by the Wiz chances are he wouldn't be the player he is right now. The Spurs just have a way of getting the best out of everyone they bring in. And ya drafting Vesley was terrible as well.

 

[Malta]

Well, looking at it, you can't really blame them. They had Granger who was still injury free and a 20+ scorer and a young Paul George at the 3. They lacked any sort of play at the 1 (and 2) other than Darren Collison

And Hill was a rising player with the Spurs.

But anyone that watched Hill knew he wasn't a PG, dude has always been an undersized SG.

And realistically, if the Spurs call me up willing to trade a proven NBA player for someone that early in the draft I'm gonna be like

 

[lutha]

as good as kawhi is turning out to be, people are ignoring he's gotten the chance to grow under the spurs...coming out of college, he could rebound and play d, but he couldn't shoot like this...if he goes to a shytty team and is asked to do more earlier his first couple years, he might not be the same player he has turned into.....

 

[thenatural]

Still have Ariza if he doesn't, but the Pacers looking at Kawhi like

I don't think the Pacers thought Danny Granger's career was going to fall off a cliff, and they still had Paul George. Adding Kawhi would've been a good, but redundant move. I think the Pacers were hell bent on trying to contend and they thought mistakenly thought George Hill would have a quicker impact than Kawhi. I can't blame them for making the move.

 

[Malta]

as good as kawhi is turning out to be, people are ignoring he's gotten the chance to grow under the spurs...coming out of college, he could rebound and play d, but he couldn't shoot like this...if he goes to a shytty team and is asked to do more earlier his first couple years, he might not be the same player he has turned into.....

I agree with that, Chip Engelland is the reason for his improved shooting, he put in the work but without Engelland he probably wouldn't be such a good shooter.

At the very least he would have been a very good defender without the Spurs development.

 

[thenatural]

I hate the "he's a prototypical Spurs guy" narrative, but I don't know if he would be able to show his skillset in a lot NBA coaches ISO sets.

 

[No..Money..Mo..Problems]

Well, looking at it, you can't really blame them. They had Granger who was still injury free and a 20+ scorer and a young Paul George at the 3. They lacked any sort of play at the 1 (and 2) other than Darren Collison

And Hill was a rising player with the Spurs.

Ya the Pacers already had an all star SF and a young Paul George so they had no use for another SF who couldn't shoot. George Hill was balling and looked like he might take Parker's spot in San Antonio and than he becomes a bum once he goes to the Pacers. Patty Mills was a bum before he signed with the Spurs and Boris Diaw was decent at Phoenix but gave no fukks when he left and than he signs with the Spurs and looks like an All Star now. Bottom line is the Spurs system can get the best out of players that buy in.

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

But anyone that watched Hill knew he wasn't a PG, dude has always been an undersized SG.

And realistically, if the Spurs call me up willing to trade a proven NBA player for someone that early in the draft I'm gonna be like

I agree that he's more like an SG but maybe they hoped he could play the point or IDK. Looking at it, the Spurs clearly came out as winners now but Indiana already had an all star type player and a rising star at the 3 position and Leonard wasn't expected to be that great iirc, nor can he really play the NBA 4 so it looked a bit justified at the time.

Can't count out Pop and the Spurs work for nurturing talent tho.