Theres a theory that Russia is using refugees to destabilize the West

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Russia accused of ‘weaponising’ Syria refugees
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Russia is deliberately attacking civilians in northern Syria in an attempt to intensify the refugee crisis, western diplomats and politicians have warned, in a sign that a fragile ceasefire agreement for the war-ravaged country is crumbling before it begins.

A pivotal part of Russia’s strategy was “to exacerbate the refugee crisis and use it as a weapon to divide the transatlantic alliance and undermine the European project”, US Senator John McCain said in a speech at an annual security conference in Munich on Sunday.

Two senior politicians from close US allies and a senior European intelligence official echoed Mr McCain’s remarks, reflecting the bleak mood among western defence chiefs, diplomats and political leaders gathered for the conference.

Moscow was “weaponising” the refugee crisis for leverage, one of the politicians warned. According to a European official, facilities such as bakeries and hospitals were being hit in an attempt to force the local population into capitulation and increase the flow of refugees towards Turkey and Europe.

The Syrian ceasefire deal, which is set to begin on Friday, was agreed by the International Syria Support Group — the collection of regional and world powers whose influence is critical in determining the outcome of the Syrian conflict — on the eve of the conference last Friday.

Moscow’s air operations have shifted the balance of power in favour of the regime of Bashar al-Assad, leaving many Washington-backed moderate opposition groups in northern Syria close to surrendering.

“This is diplomacy in service of military aggression, and it’s working because we are letting it,” said Mr McCain.

“It is no accident that Mr Putin has agreed on a cessation of activities when he did. We have seen this movie before in Ukraine,” he added.

Mr McCain, chairman of the US Senate armed services committee, gave public voice to widespread concerns over the ISSG deal that have been simmering among some of Washington’s closest allies. Though the agreement has been cautiously welcomed in public, in private most do not think it will succeed.

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The Russian bombing of Aleppo — Syria’s largest city, which is now almost completely encircled by Mr Assad’s ground forces — has continued over the course of the weekend, in spite of the ISSG pledge to begin an immediate rollback of military activities. The attacks are rapidly worsening the plight of civilians in the city, according to local observers and humanitarian agencies.

This is diplomacy in service of military aggression, and it’s working because we are letting it
- Sen John McCain

The International Rescue Committee said more than 40,000 had fled the countryside of northern Aleppo province in the past two weeks, crowding into towns near the Turkish border.

Last week, Russian and regime forces targeted and destroyed both of Aleppo’s main hospitals, according to Colonel Steve Warren, military spokesperson for the US anti-Isis mission. “Over 50,000 Syrians are now without any access to life-saving assistance,” he said.

On Sunday there were 18 strikes on and around the town of Tel Rafaat in the countryside north of Aleppo. “They are razing the cities. In the last week, there were on average 40 strikes on Tel Rafaat every day,” said an employee in Aleppo with the Syrian Civil Defence Force, an emergency rescue group inside the country.

The growing refugee crisis facing Europe will dominate discussions at an EU summit due to be held on Thursday. German chancellor Angela Merkel is under particular pressure to strike an arrangement with Turkey to accommodate a greater number of Syrians in the bloc — a move fiercely resisted by many other member states.

Manuel Valls, prime minister of France, Germany’s most important EU partner, on Sunday spoke out against Ms Merkel’s plans for a redistribution of refugees around the union, saying that Germany’s open-door policy on refugees was “unsustainable in the long run”.

Mr McCain’s speech stood in stark contrast to that of Mr Kerry’s on Saturday. The secretary of state described the coming week as “a hinge point”.

“In some quarters there is pessimism in he air. I believe we have good reason, actually, to be optimistic about the future . . . This moment is not as overwhelming as people think it is,” he said. “We know what needs to be done, and most importantly, we have the power to do it.”

Additional reporting from Stefan Wagstyl in Berlin and Erika Solomon in Beirut
 

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Damn breh you're stooping to new lows...

Lets completely ignore that Assad was killing his own, Turkey was facilitating the rebellion, the US/UK were financing multiple rebel groups, and ISIS was indiscriminately killing anyone in sight. Somehow its Russia's fault that people want to leave that situation? :snoop:
 

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Damn breh you're stooping to new lows...

Lets completely ignore that Assad was killing his own, Turkey was facilitating the rebellion, the US/UK were financing multiple rebel groups, and ISIS was indiscriminately killing anyone in sight. Somehow its Russia's fault that people want to leave that situation? :snoop:
I'm going to bet you really don't know much about the Cold War :francis:
 

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I'm going to bet you really don't know much about the Cold War :francis:

LOL. I'm going to bet you'll ignore everything the West has done to get us to this point and when I call you out on it your only response will be "whataboutism".

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Lets ignore that the Cold War was over in the 90's and that Russia WANTED relations with the West.
Lets ignore that the agreements made to end communism were disregarded by the US.
Lets ignore that NATO has encroached on neutral lands and has become a more direct threat to Russia than ever.
Lets ignore that NATO BOMBED THE shyt OUT OF Serbia aka Russia's little brother.
Lets ignore how THAT moment proved that the West lied.
Lets ignore how missile defense systems are inching closer to Russia every minute (Turkey, Estonia, Poland, etc).
Lets ignore how the West undermined a democratically elected President and brought in FACISTS to replace him.
Lets ignore how the West supports the shytty govt of Ukraine while they starve and isolate half their population.
Lets ignore how the West crucified Putin for Crimea while the West invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc.

Get all the way the fukk outta here with your nonsense.

"There's a theory that Russia is using refugees to destabilize the West". Such propagandist bullshyt. How about...the West and Arab nations created a chaotic environment that normal people are fleeing. The policy of Western countries to take in these refugees is biting them in the ass as more people are coming than they expected. It is the open border policy of the EU that is hurting them. If they didn't want refugees, they shouldn't have gotten involved. Putin is the only one 'solving' the Syrian crisis. The US and EU fueled the flames so they could attain their geopolitical goals. They FAILED and now they are suffering for it. Its that simple so stop trying to pin everything on Russia.
 

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Its probably a combo of several factors.

Assad being Assad

The Wests indiscriminate bombing

Russia taking advantage of the situation for their own strategic purposes
 

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LOL. I'm going to bet you'll ignore everything the West has done to get us to this point and when I call you out on it your only response will be "whataboutism".

:camby:

Lets ignore that the Cold War was over in the 90's and that Russia WANTED relations with the West.
Lets ignore that the agreements made to end communism were disregarded by the US.
Lets ignore that NATO has encroached on neutral lands and has become a more direct threat to Russia than ever.
Lets ignore that NATO BOMBED THE shyt OUT OF Serbia aka Russia's little brother.
Lets ignore how THAT moment proved that the West lied.
Lets ignore how missile defense systems are inching closer to Russia every minute (Turkey, Estonia, Poland, etc).
Lets ignore how the West undermined a democratically elected President and brought in FACISTS to replace him.
Lets ignore how the West supports the shytty govt of Ukraine while they starve and isolate half their population.
Lets ignore how the West crucified Putin for Crimea while the West invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc.

Get all the way the fukk outta here with your nonsense.

"There's a theory that Russia is using refugees to destabilize the West". Such propagandist bullshyt. How about...the West and Arab nations created a chaotic environment that normal people are fleeing. The policy of Western countries to take in these refugees is biting them in the ass as more people are coming than they expected. It is the open border policy of the EU that is hurting them. If they didn't want refugees, they shouldn't have gotten involved. Putin is the only one 'solving' the Syrian crisis. The US and EU fueled the flames so they could attain their geopolitical goals. They FAILED and now they are suffering for it. Its that simple so stop trying to pin everything on Russia.
Do you really think Russia is above such behavior?

RUSSIA?

We're talking about Russia.







We're talking about a nation whose hand has been behind several supposed "islamic" terrorists attacks.


Go read about Zawahiri before you reply to me. This shyt goes way deeper than you'll ever know :ufdup:
 

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Do you really think Russia is above such behavior?

RUSSIA?

We're talking about Russia.







We're talking about a nation whose hand has been behind several supposed "islamic" terrorists attacks.


Go read about Zawahiri before you reply to me. This shyt goes way deeper than you'll ever know :ufdup:

So you want to completely ignore facts so you can stick with your mighty stance. Ok breh. I can literally replace Russia with "The US" and your statements will still hold true. Whats that tell you?

Russia didn't create the system nor environment for these fleeing refugees. The US and EU did. Is Russia taking advantage of it? Its quite possible but its only possible because the West allows it to be that way.

Stop deflecting away from the L's the West is taking. Russia is the only one cleaning up the shytstorm that the West created.
 

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So you want to completely ignore facts so you can stick with your mighty stance. Ok breh. I can literally replace Russia with "The US" and your statements will still hold true. Whats that tell you?

Russia didn't create the system nor environment for these fleeing refugees. The US and EU did. Is Russia taking advantage of it? Its quite possible but its only possible because the West allows it to be that way.

Stop deflecting away from the L's the West is taking. Russia is the only one cleaning up the shytstorm that the West created.
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So in other words Russia isn't destabilizing the West, the West is destabilizing the West and Russia is capitalizing on that.

Your "theory" is akin to saying someone who picked up a $100 bill off the street robbed whoever dropped it.

Thats my WOAT^2 :mjcry:
 

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Another viscous sonning :mjcry:

Somebody help this man:mjcry:
 
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