They turning this Nas/Jim Jones thing into something bigger on Twitter now : The Intellectual/Conscious negro vs The Ignorant/Street based Negro.
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AnonymityX1000
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Another reason Nas is beloved. He doesn't match their energy in opposition. He shows respect and understanding to street culture. Like he isn't on some hoity toity high and mighty shyt. He keeps it down to earth.
MajesticLion
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Jim Jones is literally the KING of anti-intellectualism. His entire existence is a case study in the idolization of ignorance. Put him against any rapper whose ever read a book and it would turn into the same archetype because thats who Jim is
2025 has Nas and Jim Jones in the same sentence. lol
2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat
f*** apologies, i wanna see y’all geeked up
Nas represents purity & doesnt make club music
buddy was chasing hits for like 5 albums straight
and still failed
buddy was chasing hits for like 5 albums straight
and still failed
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
So yeah, he doesn't make club music. lolNas represents purity & doesnt make club music
buddy was chasing hits for like 5 albums straight
and still failed
And his inability to do so is because of his purity.
2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat
f*** apologies, i wanna see y’all geeked up
1/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
WHY JIM JONES AND EVERYBODY
HATES NAS AND THE BLACK CONSCIOUS ARCHETYPE…
You have to understand what Nas represents first..
Nas represents purity in a culture
That is no longer pure
And this gets him a lot of hate just for existing
1.) Nas is conscious the culture is not
2.) Nas loves lyricism the culture does not
3.)Nas calls out black ignorance in his music..The culture loves black ignorance
4.) nas respect the artist that came before him.. the culture calls them “old heads”
5.) nas does not make club music
The culture only loves club music
6.) Nas is smart..
the culture hates smart black people
If you really really analyze the people
That diss Nas you will always see
That it’s the opposing archetype
Of the black intellect
It’s the street nikka
It’s the gang banging nikka
It’s the drug dealer
It’s the rap fan that hates lyricism
It’s the rap fan that hates conscious rap
It’s the rap fan that only loves trap rap
It’s the rap fan that does not respect
Or have knowledge of the past
Pertaining to hip hop
See they can’t stand Nas because he represents the opposite of them
And he’s loved..
2/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
Tony speaks on how Nas is not the average
nikka..
Definitely not the average rapper
On tour instead of dealing with
Groupies and smoking weed
And clubbing nightly
Nas would rather read..
The culture does not love reading
You can argue but stats show this to be true
3/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
On songs like “Black girl lost”
And “last real nikka alive”
Nas spoke on black women choosing
(Black girls lost)
The non conscious ignorant
On the scene, black male archetype
Over the conscious black male archetype
That would rather stay home and read
On a Saturday night
“A quiet man who used to be at home planning
Baby mom thought I was too quiet
She couldn’t stand it
She hit the streets
Later on she hitting the streets
With a rapper that wanted me on his songs
Thinking he strong
I taught her how to watch for cars that might follow
I taught her street shyt that I know
Her weakness was shine tho
But that’s her
I ain’t mad baby
It made me stronger
Now I get my paper longer “-NAS
4/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
The film
MENACE TO SOCIETY
Highlighted how the black conscious
Archetype like Nas
is treated by the non black conscious archetypes in the community
Through the experience in the film
Of the character “Sharif”
Met with insults
Met with the butt of the jokes
Met with pushback
5/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
See the ignorant rappers and black male
Archetypes That smoke blunts during interviews and rap about money hoes clothes every song over the same type of beat over and over and over
They envy Nas because he’s different
And they know that they could never get on that level poetically and lyrically
Because
1.) they are afraid to be themselves
Truthfully I rhyme like common sense-hov
2.) they don’t have the intellectual ability
To rap like that so you have to go against it
Because it’s a threat to you
If the fans ever get smart enough
6/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
See the mumble rap
Auto tune rap fans mostly young
Etc etc
They have to automatically hate Nas
Because he represents the opposite of them musically
They know If fans still cared about lyricism
That their whole sub genre of
Auto tune rap/mumble rap vibe rap etc
Where the beat matters much more than the lyrics.. they Would not exist
And Nas represents the king of lyrical rap
So you have to diss him
7/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
See if you love ratchet rap music
And gangster rap music
Trap rap music
Club rap music etc etc
All of the lower vibrational rap music forms
You have to hate Nas..
Because it’s too pure
It’s too artistic
It’s too wordy
It’s too thought out
It’s too smart
This culture thinks being smart
Is acting white
Always remember that
8/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
Nas dedicated rap songs to tell children that they can be whatever they want to be
The archetype of rappers and fans
That reject and hate Nas
Usually mislead children and teenagers
With poisonous lyrics
With no regard
Just focused on making the next dollar
No matter which kid is negatively influenced
So they naturally have to hate Nas
9/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
STUDENT OF THE GAME
(LOVES THE ART)
See while most rappers today pride themselves on not having any knowledge
Of rap music or the history of it
Dissing nas and pac
Nas is a true student of the game
And the arts
He appreciates the artist that paved the way for him to get into the game
10/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
See although I am a Jim Jones fan myself
I’m looking at this clash of the archetypes
Through a psychological analysis
And the street nikka archetype
Hates the conscious pro black archetype
Because when he looks at him
He sees all of the things that he knows he should also be into
Drake clashed with Kendrick
2001 Jay z clashed with nas
Big clashed with pac
The turn up nikkas hate conscious and lyrical rap and rappers
This is a reoccurring dynamic
“Maybe nikkas can see too much of their failures
When they look at a nikka that’s realer”-nas
11/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
While Jim Jones and most rappers
Who don’t love the art form
Focus on numbers and sales
For the label and commercial appeal
Nas has always said
“Let’s stop caring about the numbers
Let’s just make real art
Something so daring that radio might not play”-NAS
12/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
In 2017 Al Jarreau
The legendary black jazz singer passed way
Nas dedicated a tribute song to him
That was very artistically done
Rapping over Al jarreau sample
And rhyming at the same pace
And tempo As the live Orchestra
Most of the culture rejected the song
As it was too intelligent and artistic/creative for them to try anything new
While the rest of us were amazed
At the artistry
13/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
Many of you don’t know it
But it’s been a war on real black rap music
They brainwashed the kids To only want to hear
“Money,hoes, clothes,drugs, kill blacks”
Over trap beats
So now if you are a conscious rapper the
Non conscious blacks say
J Cole= boring
Kendrick=boring
Nas=boring
2pac=boring
14/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
BLACK ART APPRECIATION
As I told you black parents have to
Teach their black children black art
And the power of it and the black music
That came before them
So they have a art appreciation
And a soul musically
And Nas has that in a culture
That didn’t have that
Most black rappers just rapping
Because they don’t want a job
And rapping allows you to not have a job
While still having a job where can get high
And still do all the nikka shyt nikkas like to do
And than some rappers rap
Because they live and value the art form
And they want to use their music and poetry to speak to peoples spirit and soul
That’s Nas..
Trapped in a culture that hates that
15/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
ALL OF MY WORDS TO ENEMIES
IS POISON
RAPPERS THAT ONLY RAP ABOUT KIS
IT’S ALL POISON
HOW COULD YOU CALL
YOURSELVES MCS..
WITH THAT POISON
THINK ABOUT THE KIDS YOU MISLEAD
WITH THAT POISON-Nas
We out
16/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
Go cop my latest album ft crooked I
@MUSICANDBUILDS
WHY JIM JONES AND EVERYBODY
HATES NAS AND THE BLACK CONSCIOUS ARCHETYPE…
You have to understand what Nas represents first..
Nas represents purity in a culture
That is no longer pure
And this gets him a lot of hate just for existing
1.) Nas is conscious the culture is not
2.) Nas loves lyricism the culture does not
3.)Nas calls out black ignorance in his music..The culture loves black ignorance
4.) nas respect the artist that came before him.. the culture calls them “old heads”
5.) nas does not make club music
The culture only loves club music
6.) Nas is smart..
the culture hates smart black people
If you really really analyze the people
That diss Nas you will always see
That it’s the opposing archetype
Of the black intellect
It’s the street nikka
It’s the gang banging nikka
It’s the drug dealer
It’s the rap fan that hates lyricism
It’s the rap fan that hates conscious rap
It’s the rap fan that only loves trap rap
It’s the rap fan that does not respect
Or have knowledge of the past
Pertaining to hip hop
See they can’t stand Nas because he represents the opposite of them
And he’s loved..
2/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
Tony speaks on how Nas is not the average
nikka..
Definitely not the average rapper
On tour instead of dealing with
Groupies and smoking weed
And clubbing nightly
Nas would rather read..
The culture does not love reading
You can argue but stats show this to be true
3/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
On songs like “Black girl lost”
And “last real nikka alive”
Nas spoke on black women choosing
(Black girls lost)
The non conscious ignorant
On the scene, black male archetype
Over the conscious black male archetype
That would rather stay home and read
On a Saturday night
“A quiet man who used to be at home planning
Baby mom thought I was too quiet
She couldn’t stand it
She hit the streets
Later on she hitting the streets
With a rapper that wanted me on his songs
Thinking he strong
I taught her how to watch for cars that might follow
I taught her street shyt that I know
Her weakness was shine tho
But that’s her
I ain’t mad baby
It made me stronger
Now I get my paper longer “-NAS
4/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
The film
MENACE TO SOCIETY
Highlighted how the black conscious
Archetype like Nas
is treated by the non black conscious archetypes in the community
Through the experience in the film
Of the character “Sharif”
Met with insults
Met with the butt of the jokes
Met with pushback
5/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
See the ignorant rappers and black male
Archetypes That smoke blunts during interviews and rap about money hoes clothes every song over the same type of beat over and over and over
They envy Nas because he’s different
And they know that they could never get on that level poetically and lyrically
Because
1.) they are afraid to be themselves
Truthfully I rhyme like common sense-hov
2.) they don’t have the intellectual ability
To rap like that so you have to go against it
Because it’s a threat to you
If the fans ever get smart enough
6/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
See the mumble rap
Auto tune rap fans mostly young
Etc etc
They have to automatically hate Nas
Because he represents the opposite of them musically
They know If fans still cared about lyricism
That their whole sub genre of
Auto tune rap/mumble rap vibe rap etc
Where the beat matters much more than the lyrics.. they Would not exist
And Nas represents the king of lyrical rap
So you have to diss him
7/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
See if you love ratchet rap music
And gangster rap music
Trap rap music
Club rap music etc etc
All of the lower vibrational rap music forms
You have to hate Nas..
Because it’s too pure
It’s too artistic
It’s too wordy
It’s too thought out
It’s too smart
This culture thinks being smart
Is acting white
Always remember that
8/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
Nas dedicated rap songs to tell children that they can be whatever they want to be
The archetype of rappers and fans
That reject and hate Nas
Usually mislead children and teenagers
With poisonous lyrics
With no regard
Just focused on making the next dollar
No matter which kid is negatively influenced
So they naturally have to hate Nas
9/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
STUDENT OF THE GAME
(LOVES THE ART)
See while most rappers today pride themselves on not having any knowledge
Of rap music or the history of it
Dissing nas and pac
Nas is a true student of the game
And the arts
He appreciates the artist that paved the way for him to get into the game
10/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
See although I am a Jim Jones fan myself
I’m looking at this clash of the archetypes
Through a psychological analysis
And the street nikka archetype
Hates the conscious pro black archetype
Because when he looks at him
He sees all of the things that he knows he should also be into
Drake clashed with Kendrick
2001 Jay z clashed with nas
Big clashed with pac
The turn up nikkas hate conscious and lyrical rap and rappers
This is a reoccurring dynamic
“Maybe nikkas can see too much of their failures
When they look at a nikka that’s realer”-nas
11/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
While Jim Jones and most rappers
Who don’t love the art form
Focus on numbers and sales
For the label and commercial appeal
Nas has always said
“Let’s stop caring about the numbers
Let’s just make real art
Something so daring that radio might not play”-NAS
12/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
In 2017 Al Jarreau
The legendary black jazz singer passed way
Nas dedicated a tribute song to him
That was very artistically done
Rapping over Al jarreau sample
And rhyming at the same pace
And tempo As the live Orchestra
Most of the culture rejected the song
As it was too intelligent and artistic/creative for them to try anything new
While the rest of us were amazed
At the artistry
13/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
Many of you don’t know it
But it’s been a war on real black rap music
They brainwashed the kids To only want to hear
“Money,hoes, clothes,drugs, kill blacks”
Over trap beats
So now if you are a conscious rapper the
Non conscious blacks say
J Cole= boring
Kendrick=boring
Nas=boring
2pac=boring
14/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
BLACK ART APPRECIATION
As I told you black parents have to
Teach their black children black art
And the power of it and the black music
That came before them
So they have a art appreciation
And a soul musically
And Nas has that in a culture
That didn’t have that
Most black rappers just rapping
Because they don’t want a job
And rapping allows you to not have a job
While still having a job where can get high
And still do all the nikka shyt nikkas like to do
And than some rappers rap
Because they live and value the art form
And they want to use their music and poetry to speak to peoples spirit and soul
That’s Nas..
Trapped in a culture that hates that
15/23
@MUSICANDBUILDS
ALL OF MY WORDS TO ENEMIES
IS POISON
RAPPERS THAT ONLY RAP ABOUT KIS
IT’S ALL POISON
HOW COULD YOU CALL
YOURSELVES MCS..
WITH THAT POISON
THINK ABOUT THE KIDS YOU MISLEAD
WITH THAT POISON-Nas
We out
16/23
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17/23
NAS LATE YEAR CAREER RUN
WAS BEAUTIFUL AND I’LL BE HONEST
YOU’LL APPRECIATE IT MORE
AS THE TIME GOES ON
BUT LET’S RANK THE 6 PROJECTS
HIM AND HIT DID
MAYBE YOUR RANKING WILL BE DIFFERENT
BUT HERE’S MINE!
18/23
The silent WAR nobody wants to talk about..
In this 1997 film
Calhoun a black boot camp officer
Brings Yance a black teenage street kid
Who is doing time in a boot camp
Facility
Into a dark closet
And tells him about a silent war going on
And he tells him it’s the war
Between the blacks and the nikkas..
And he tells him that
Black people are honest, hardworking,
Law abiding, intelligent family oriented,
Educated people
And he tells him nikkas are
Lazy, thieves,
don’t take care of their kids
Shoot eachother
Live off the system
Kill eachother
Pimp sisters out etc
And he informs him how the
nikka is messing up the blacks
Reputation
Because it’s only one nikka in this
Room.. very powerful scene
He also said how the nikka
Is so mentally confused that
He looks at the blacks
Who work hard and are educated
And calls them a sell out
When every night the nikka
Is the one doing the devils work..
Killing other blacks
Robbing other blacks
Pimping other blacks
Selling dope to other blacks
Terrorizing their own black communities
This silent war
Has been going on for decades
19/23
20/23
BLACK MUSIC TODAY LACKS SOUL..
See the reason all the black music sucks now
Is because of the knowledge gap
Its not a generational gap
It’s a lack of knowledge gap
Because they have conditioned you to believe that any black artist older than you
YOU SHOULD NOT KNOW THEM
And black parents stopped putting the black babies on the black classics
So they lack soul now!
Part of being black American is music!
The film “Sinners” showed you that
SO BLACK KIDS BORN IN 2000
DON’T EVEN KNOW THESE GREATS
Because black parents don’t install the knowledge on our music into them anymore
21/23
It just hit me that Jim Jones
Even being a grown man that lived through
The golden age of hip hop etc
views hip hop through a modern day
Generation Z social media
Shaderoom/DJ Ak based scope
He feels like if you are not viral on
social media amongst the Gen Z kids
Or if you are not On Kai Cenats podcast
You are a nobody in the rap world
Even if you are Nas
It makes sense now
22/23
“THE BLACK MAN IS A BABY BOY”-
Dr Welsing
Mainstream Rap has brainwashed
Black Americans to be caught up in childish behavior for longer than they probably should
So you have many grown black men
Who refuse to grow up
Still caught up in the night life,
childish games buying Clothes etc
Instead of maturing
Even in rap music taste
We have grown men 25-40
who only listen to rappers that are 19-22
Nas called them “BLACK ZOMBIES”
23/23
Only if people were studied enough
To read the book by dikk Gregory
That inspired the name of the album
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