This current crop of Gen Z rappers are generic as shyt

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Not an old head. Not a hater. People criticized the soundcloud/early melodic rap era from like 2012--2016 but honestly, amongst a sea of shyt you found a lot of guys who were at least trying to do something unique sonically (Uzi, Carti, Future, Thug, XXXtentacion, JuiceWRLD, Fetty Wap, Kodak, Travis, 21 Savage, Tory Lanez) even if they weren't necessarily the best "pure" rappers (actually JuiceWRLD could really fukking rap but that's besides the point.) None of those dudes sound like eachother, whatsoever.

This current crop of guys though? I guess you'd call this era the "street" wave? Lil Baby? Polo G? Nardo Wick? Roddy? Rod Wave? The entire new 1017? Can you tell any of their shyt apart? All using the same tired ass, uninspired "gritty" street production that is most prevalent in Lil Baby's music. A beat backed by a tired ass piano melody, or acoustic guitar, or flute. Sometimes all 3. The beats all sound the same. And aren't even nice to listen to. The bars all sound the same. They all either sound like refined, but less creative versions of Thug when they rap. Or like they're just flat out bored/special ed (Pooh Sheisty I'm looking at you.)

These guys don't even attempt to form unique personas or at least be "out there" in terms of their image, the way guys like Uzi, Carti, Kodak, and XXX were. It's like a factory is just churning out all these generic ass nikkas and for some reason they're thriving.

Roddy in particular is the most annoying. This dumb ass nikka made a hit like "The Box", which was an incredibly unique song soncially that was so addictive it organically rose up the charts and dominated the air waves. He saw that, and what does he do? Take 2 years off to basically make a Lil Baby/Polo G album. It's like it completely flew over his head what made his last shyt so successful :mjlol:

I've never wanted a wave in rap to end quicker. The music is so fukking uninspired right now. Of all of them, Baby is probably the most listenable. He actually has some songs that at least bang when you're tryna get lit. But just from a principals standpoint, these nikkas gotta go.

EDIT: Ironically, one guy this era who's actually "different" is DaBaby. His sound is very uniquely his, even if you don't like his music. But he actually seems to get the most hate of all the Gen Z guys. Which shows exactly what the problem is.
 
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just curious - what does the "gen z" label mean to you? because you bring up guys like lil baby and dababy who are both pushing 30 and are solidly millennials and who would have different influences than the guys in their early 20s

is it just that you associate their style with what gen z's listen to?
 

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Yea I used to defend new rappers for years but a lot of the stuff I’ve heard from 2020 & onward is some of the most low effort shyt I’ve heard. Almost no sense of dynamics, builds, outros, etc. just dudes rambling on a couple sets of 4-8 bar loops. Kinda seems like people are just trying less in general these days.
 

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just curious - what does the "gen z" label mean to you? because you bring up guys like lil baby and dababy who are both pushing 30 and are solidly millennials and who would have different influences than the guys in their early 20s

is it just that you associate their style with what gen z's listen to?
Yeah pretty much. I don't look at age as much as what sounds and styles are prevailing in the Gen Z era.
 

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Yea I used to defend new rappers for years but a lot of the stuff I’ve heard from 2020 & onward is some of the most low effort shyt I’ve heard. Almost no sense of dynamics, builds, outros, etc. just dudes rambling on a couple sets of 4-8 bar loops. Kinda seems like people are just trying less in general these days.

Man you hit a spot talking about the builds :wow:im working on that with my production, as a kid I could never get through them old songs that did that but as a I grew up I really do appreciate the song forming itself for a minute or two, its beautiful it's like you're hearing a metamorphosis.
 

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im a old head but still current. i remember nikkaz making beats and taking two days to sample a unique complementary snare. with social media its a now generation. they spoiled , got lazy and lost all creativity. one will come every once an a while then everyone will copy them till someone else does something different. i think seeing the same recycled shyt work has created a cycle of if it aint broke dont fix it. imagine how many of these artist have no idea of true creativity. it doesnt make sense to have your own style(to them) or that concept is just foreign. my peer group was all about having your own style , vibe, frequency.
 

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I've posted about it a tons. The real answer is

1. Their producers do NOT challenge them. Look at what Tyler could do for both 42 Dugg and YoungBoy.
2. They don't challenge their own sound. Polo G has content but he's such a drag I dont five a fukk.

This whole "dullwave" was inspired by QC and Culture II. And then you got the super modeling dudes like Rod Wave and Toosii try to voice inflect rheir way to being interesting but you can't shine those production turds.
 
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