This is infuriating. Woman breaks down the cost of giving birth in China

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The nut gripping ya'll do for China

and the sad part is ya'll don't even get paid for it.
*Points out valid criticism about our own country, the same one that hypes itself up as the greatest nation*

*Points out how our biggest rival, a country of "peasants", is better than us in multiple ways that are crucial to maintaining a healthy life financially and literally*

"You're a China nut-hugger:damn:"

Please shut the fúck up.
 

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*Points out valid criticism about our own country, the same one that hypes itself up as the greatest nation*

*Points out how our biggest rival, a country of "peasants", is better than us in multiple ways that are crucial to maintaining a healthy life financially and literally*

"You're a China nut-hugger:damn:"

Please shut the fúck up.
Right.

There are a lot of countries that handle things better and more efficiently than America.

The point is to highlight what areas we can improve and we can point to other countries to learn from them.

If someone said your neighbor renovated his kitchen for half the price that you did, it doesn’t mean your house is crap. But maybe you ought to look into how he got such a good deal.

It’s common sense.
 

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America generates enough wealth to easily subsidize healthcare but that would be 'socialism' so we basically have the same life expectancy we had about a century ago despite all these advances in medicine.

Americans are too dumb to realize the subsidy that will go to funding a good universal healthcare system is going to the insurance companies and some hospitals are definitely cheating the system too. The money is already being spent just not on the people that need it.

Cost of child birth will be about the same as in china if people paid upfront but that means if you are broke or uninsured the hospitals can tell you to GTFO if you dont have enough money. American hospitals are mandated to treat unstable patient or in case of emergency. Once you admit a patient you are stuck with them...There are uninsured people in the ICU that stay for more than 100 days...literally millions of dollars spent to keep them alive. So the insured family paying $37k per childbirth are essentially paying for the uninsured patients that take up the time and resources of the hospital.

And before anyone says doctors are overpaid...There is a life threatening emergent procedure, that usually affects people that are reckless and often uninsured. for every insured person I do this procedure on, I am probably doing it on 3-5 uninsured/underinsured people. A good insurance pays me $600-1200 and the hospital gets paid about $20,000-25,000. How much is someones life worth? In a free market I will charge a lot more. I am sure most people will find away to come up with $5000 if their life depends on it, that's how much I should my time and expertise should be worth.

TL:DR Insured patients are paying extra for the uninsured people that use the hospital. A government funded universal healthcare with an additional private option will solve this problem. Patients are doctors get screwed by the system.
 

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America generates enough wealth to easily subsidize healthcare but that would be 'socialism' so we basically have the same life expectancy we had about a century ago despite all these advances in medicine.
All it takes is a politician to even IMPLY that we MIGHT benefit from a social program for them to oppose it.

White supremacy has made American whites retarded. Their hatred for us is so strong and irrational that they'd destroy themselves if it meant we went down with them.
 

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So it’s cheap to have kids in China but they have the worst birth rate in the world?


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China's population declined for the third consecutive year in 2024, dropping to 1.408 billion. This decline, driven by a low birth rate and increased death rate, marks a first since the country's founding in 1949. The situation raises concerns about the long-term economic and social impacts on China.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/17/chinas-population-falls-for-third-year-in-a-row-as-birthrate-declines#:~:text=China's%20population%20continues%20to%20fall,and%20amid%20concerns%20for%20economy.&text=China's%20population%20fell%20for%20the,deaths%20continue%20to%20outpace%20births.
 
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