This is where J Cole is fukking up...

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

This chick at my job said J Cole wasn't lyrical

then it dawns on me that all of his singles have been Drakesque. She likes Drake's music and all she see's J Cole as is a non lyrical Drake knockoff.

 

[KingSamie]

But J. Cole ISN'T that lyrical. Not if you compare to the upper echelon of MC's. A really lyrical rapper wouldn't say dumb shyt like:
"I let you feel like you the shyt, but boy you can't out-fart me". You could say that's just one dud but son got a lot of lines like that. He's a decent storyteller, he's decent lyrically, he has nice flows, but he's really a 6-7/10 when it comes to pure rapping skills. That's not me hating on Cole, I like his music, but less now than I did a few years ago because he's kinda boring if you think about it.

 

[JuvenileHell]

But J. Cole ISN'T that lyrical. Not if you compare to the upper echelon of MC's. A really lyrical rapper wouldn't say dumb shyt like:
"I let you feel like you the shyt, but boy you can't out-fart me". You could say that's just one dud but son got a lot of lines like that. He's a decent storyteller, he's decent lyrically, he has nice flows, but he's really a 6-7/10 when it comes to pure rapping skills. That's not me hating on Cole, I like his music, but less now than I did a few years ago because he's kinda boring if you think about it.

I agree. I think it's because for the last couple years the bar had been seriously lowers with all that snap stuff, that a decent rapper like Cole would be seen as super lyrical. I wouldn't even say that about Kendrick, he just has a very interesting delivery/voice and can switch his flows up like crazy.

Monster lyricists are guys like Killer Priest, Lupe, Nas, Jay etc.

 

[Harry B]

So you girl at work is the reason for why Cole is fukking up

Okay so I met this dude at McDonalds drunk as fukk talking about Obama being shy, Obama is fukking up breh

But J. Cole ISN'T that lyrical. Not if you compare to the upper echelon of MC's. A really lyrical rapper wouldn't say dumb shyt like:
"I let you feel like you the shyt, but boy you can't out-fart me". You could say that's just one dud but son got a lot of lines like that. He's a decent storyteller, he's decent lyrically, he has nice flows, but he's really a 6-7/10 when it comes to pure rapping skills. That's not me hating on Cole, I like his music, but less now than I did a few years ago because he's kinda boring if you think about it.

Even Nas and Jay have wack lines or more speciifically someone like Eminem has loads of them. That's what happen if you do 200 one liners obviously 4-5 will be bad, no matter ho dope you are. But only losers focus on the 4-5 instead of the 195-196 dope ones. And that line was meant to make you laugh, not say "whoo what a lyrical rapper". It's like saying "A really dope rapper would never drop a song like You owe me or We off that". Not even Cole has dropped as wack joints.

 

[The 2020 New Member]

cole still aint on the level of 'half-man, half mammal' tho.

 

[RTF]

Cole isn't that nice man let's be reality. On a very good day with a sharp flow he's an 8 lyrically. He's not much sharper than a Kanye West lyrically if at all. A step behind Nas and co.

 

[Harry B]

Cole isn't that nice man let's be reality. On a very good day with a sharp flow he's an 8 lyrically. He's not much sharper than a Kanye West lyrically if at all. A step behind Nas and co.

So everyone a step behind Nas and co. isn't that nice
i.e. only like 10 rappers are nice

A.I wasn't that nice, he's a step behind and Jordan and co.
No one has said that J. Cole is top 5 of all time, they've said that he's top 5 right now (mostly top 3 if we exclude oldies).
Cats on the coli has got a tendency to build a dude up to legendary status and simultaneously shyt on him for not being legendary status.

 

[AAKing23]

He never been that lyrical, he's just a great song maker and writer when it comes to making shyt sound relateable and shyt




Dude has found his niche at it and he can shine lyrically at times

 

[RTF]

So everyone a step behind Nas and co. isn't that nice
i.e. only like 10 rappers are nice

A.I wasn't that nice, he's a step behind and Jordan and co.
No one has said that J. Cole is top 5 of all time, they've said that he's top 5 right now (mostly top 3 if we exclude oldies).
Cats on the coli has got a tendency to build a dude up to legendary status and simultaneously shyt on him for not being legendary status.

Okay, he’s a step back from Pusha T and Malice. Heck, Soul tape II Loso is much sharper than Cole. Cole can rap pretty well but lyrically he’s not even seeing Drake lyrically although he has more flows.

 

[Harry B]

Okay, he’s a step back from Pusha T and Malice. Heck, Soul tape II Loso is much sharper than Cole. Cole can rap pretty well but lyrically he’s not even seeing Drake lyrically although he has more flows.

I put Drake above Cole, but I can't co-sign Drake being "more" lyrical.
Drake to me has better flows, song-writing and is more creative with his songs/albums.

While Cole has better stories, wordplay and lyricism.
I'm not gonna talk about substance, cause I'm not a Nas stan and substance is overly objective to judge on who's got the best.
I will say that Cole has a unique feature in that he's probably got the most average 0-25 years of any rapper, therefore he can tackle most average subjects better than any new rapper.

And Kendrick is probably both those dudes rolled in one.

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

To me Cole's strength isn't his lyrics, it's his topics/stories.

If you a 20 something black man trying to make it in America I don't get how you can't like cole

But once again I don't get y'all coli nikkas. None of all ever touched dope but you love Jeezy and Gucci, but Cole talks about trying to make it after college doing it the right way and y'all hate on it. You fools literally leave me confused every day

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Steve Francis of rap

 

[FreddyCalhoun]

Please define what you new niqqaz call Lyrical.... Because It damn sure sounds like you getting in confused with "wordplay"....

 

[blackslash]

This chick at my job said J Cole wasn't lyrical

then it dawns on me that all of his singles have been Drakesque. She likes Drake's music and all she see's J Cole as is a non lyrical Drake knockoff.

Ummm he's not that lyrical forreal??

But this whole "lyrical" sht gets tired

Mufckaz will tell u Pac is a lyrical beast

But then next sentence say..
Drake or Ross aint lyrical

So tell homegirl if she aint feelin him..its whatever

She prolly gets enough sleep already

 

[Street Knowledge]

You can't be "lyrical" saying things like

"Out fart me"