This joint Desiigner previewed on IG sounds HARD AF :damn:

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I didn't ask you if you copped desiigner or future's shyt. If you have no problem listening to clones then did you get into Guerilla Black? Tha Realest? Are you a big Action Bronson fan?

That's really awesome that you liked Shyne but he wasn't a Biggie clone. Guerilla Black was. So, were you listening to both? If so why not?

Same question @Harry B since you a Jay stan...how many Angelous records you into?

I didn't like GB cause he was wack. I though some of Angelous shyt was good but he wasn't up to par. I've listened to AB but didn't fill the GFK slander.
 

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not even..fetty atleast put out a summer album with hits on hits
In the sense that he got big off of one song and will have a string of hits before cooling off

and nikkas really complaining that a rapper isn't using enough melody now?? :heh:
 

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What's pop about this?

Explain sir :jbhmm:

I've def got time

Outside of what was qouted what did you honestly hear that you could understand? How many times did you have to hear Panda before you actually picked up on the lyrics...and half the people still dont understand what the song is about.

Yet that song was played thousands of times across the country daily. And because of its popularity it became a hit. And because it became a hit it became acceptable music. Same thing happen with Soilja Boy. Its popular music breh which is not the same as hiphop.

The difference the new Nas joint..thats hiphop..its elegant...its well written..its straight spitting..no repeated words..no unecessary hook. Just a man..his thoughts and a mic...NO GIMMICKS....

Dropping repetitive 4 bar vs over poorly mixed 808 and snares is music. But its just popular rap...that shyt is not hiphop by my definition at least. Play all the shytty music you want..but dont disrespect the culture by confusing the 2. Hiphop is the essence of rhyme...pop hop is the essence having fun..
 

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Outside of what was qouted what did you honestly hear that you could understand? How many times did you have to hear Panda before you actually picked up on the lyrics...and half the people still dont understand what the song is about.

Yet that song was played thousands of times across the country daily. And because of its popularity it became a hit. And because it became a hit it became acceptable music. Same thing happen with Soilja Boy. Its popular music breh which is not the same as hiphop.

The difference the new Nas joint..thats hiphop..its elegant...its well written..its straight spitting..no repeated words..no unecessary hook. Just a man..his thoughts and a mic...NO GIMMICKS....

Dropping repetitive 4 bar vs over poorly mixed 808 and snares is music. But its just popular rap...that shyt is not hiphop by my definition at least. Play all the shytty music you want..but dont disrespect the culture by confusing the 2. Hiphop is the essence of rhyme...pop hop is the essence having fun..


Pop..

As in popular mainstream music like Iggy Azella or G easy :jbhmm: as in forced or cheesey hip op music.

Nah he's far from it.. What I heard in that clip was banger. Something I crank in the whip or use to keep me upbeat in the gym. On some 98 DMX get at me dog with a 2016 millienals twist


I get that everything ain't for everybody but let's be clear here.. Nothing pop about Desiigner or that brief clip so miss me with projecting your disdain for what you perceive as gimmicky pop music when in reality this is nothing but a banger
 

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Pop..

As in popular mainstream music like Iggy Azella or G easy :jbhmm: as in forced or cheesey hip op music.

Nah he's far from it.. What I heard in that clip was banger. Something I crank in the whip or use to keep me upbeat in the gym. On some 98 DMX get at me dog with a 2016 millienals twist


I get that everything ain't for everybody but let's be clear here.. Nothing pop about Desiigner or that brief clip so miss me with projecting your disdain for what you perceive as gimmicky pop music when in reality this is nothing but a banger

:comeon: his whole persona represents a gimmick. Get off his dikk and get out ya feelings nikka. :dame:
 

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:comeon: his whole persona represents a gimmick. Get off his dikk and get out ya feelings nikka. :dame:

Now we can't have a civil hip hop discussion without resorting to the name calling tactics to differ from counter points


Ok... Once again, to recontextualize Desiigner's IG clip was the complete opposite of pop... It sounded turnt up and grimey


His persona is his persona.. Now you're resorting to attacking his character but our original discussion was centered around his music.

Like I said, you ain't got to like breh but at least have legit claims and details to support your stance


Nothing pop about that clip
 

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Now we can't have a civil hip hop discussion without resorting to the name calling tactics to differ from counter points


Ok... Once again, to recontextualize Desiigner's IG clip was the complete opposite of pop... It sounded turnt up and grimey


His persona is his persona.. Now you're resorting to attacking his character but our original discussion was centered around his music.

Like I said, you ain't got to like breh but at least have legit claims and details to support your stance


Nothing pop about that clip

Pop aint just tenny bopper bullshyt anymore breh. More white kids listen to these ahit for brains nikkas then any other genre out there. Just cause he talking about gun play and other shyt dont make it hiphop or hood. Its mainstream musicade for mainstream success...whicg makes it pop. You do get that right...but its my opinion vs your opinion. I didnt call the clip wack...I said it ain't hiphop..its pop. The equivalent of the watered down period of rock before hiphop took off. Its generic bullshyt for mainstream audiences aka known as whitey.
 

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Pop aint just tenny bopper bullshyt anymore breh. More white kids listen to these ahit for brains nikkas then any other genre out there. Just cause he talking about gun play and other shyt dont make it hiphop or hood. Its mainstream musicade for mainstream success...whicg makes it pop. You do get that right...but its my opinion vs your opinion. I didnt call the clip wack...I said it ain't hiphop..its pop. The equivalent of the watered down period of rock before hiphop took off. Its generic bullshyt for mainstream audiences aka known as whitey.


Come on champ.. We don't need to racilize this either.. White kids listened and bought (and still buy) all forms of hip hop so equating this to pop using that line of reasoning is flawed

Every sub genre under the hip hop umbrella doesn't require you to use your brain cognitively.. Some of this shyt is just great to bump and party too.. Let's not over analyze this


What's generic to me is "All the way up" and all the remixes that followed.. What's generic to me may not be generic to you.. I would respect you more if you just said I don't fukk with son or his music


His music is more grimey and gritty than it is pop :snoop:
 

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:whoo: :whoo: :whoo:
got me ridin while im rollin 60's, strapped up and my nikkas wit me:bustback:

timmy turner had a burner and a semi wit me:bustback:

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Edit: I fully support Desiigner now that I know he crippin. 60s don't play. Don't expect any rappers to go at Desiigner. nikka rolling 60s and I'm pretty sure off the record Rap A Lot getting bread from him too. Mike Dean is an in-house producer for them exclusively, and the fact that he's working with Desiigner says it all.
 
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