This shyt got to be sensationalist right? NCAA using 13 amendment to not pay Athletes

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The NCAA Says Student-Athletes Shouldn’t Be Paid Because the 13th Amendment Allows Unpaid Prison Labor

IN THE UNITED STATES, college athletes — particularly those who compete at some of the largest football and basketball programs — generate not millions but billions of dollars for universities, brands, and television networks. In 2015, the top programs made a combined $9.1 billion. The NCAA, for its part, just signed an $8.8 billion dollar deal with CBS to air March Madness, the college basketball championship tournament.

College sports is a business – a very lucrative business.

That very obvious dynamic undergirds a lawsuit filed by former NCAA athlete Lawrence “Poppy” Livers asserting that scholarship students who play sports are employees and deserve pay. The Livers case argues that student-athletes who get scholarships should at least be paid as work-study students for the time they put in.

What the NCAA did in response to the lawsuit is as vile as anything going on in sports right now. I had to see it for myself before I believed it. At the root of its legal argument, the NCAA is relying on one particular case for why NCAA athletes should not be paid. That case is Vanskike v. Peters.

Only there’s an important detail: Daniel Vanskike was a prisoner at Stateville Correctional Center in Joliet, Illinois, and Howard Peters was the Director of the state Department of Corrections. In 1992, Vanskike and his attorneys argued that as a prisoner he should be paid a federal minimum wage for his work. The court, in its decision, cited the 13th Amendment and rejected the claim.

The 13th Amendment is commonly hailed as the law that finally ended slavery in America. But the amendment has an important carve-out: it kept involuntary service legal for those who have been convicted of a crime. “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction,” the amendment says. It’s that phrase — “except as a punishment for crime” — which allows American prisons to force their inmates to do whatever work they want or need them to do.


The use of the case stems from several other law cases alleging unpaid labor; two of them are previous lawsuits against the NCAA in which the case was cited as precedent, and the NCAA won.


Livers v. NCAA Filing on Comparison of Student-Athletes to Prisoners18 pages

IN THEIR RESPONSE to the NCAA’s motion to dismiss, Livers’s lawyers are arguing that the precedent was mistaken for applying the 13th Amendment exception for unpaid prison labor in a case dealing with non-prisoners.

“Defense Counsel’s insistence that Vanskike be applied here is not only legally frivolous, but also deeply offensive to all Scholarship Athletes – and particularly to African-Americans,” Livers’s rebuttal to the NCAA’s motion says. “Comparing athletes to prisoners is contemptible.”

“Comparing athletes to prisoners is contemptible.”
The NCAA is showing an incorrigible nerve to use this case, Vanskike v. Peters, as one of its justifications for not paying student-athletes. The Vanskike case has been cited in the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals 14 times before, but in each of those 14 cases there were prisoners arguing that they should be paid a fair wage for their work.

Yet the NCAA wants to rely on this case and to call on the 13th Amendment. The body that runs college sports wants to use a justification for the slave labor of convicted criminals to justify its outrageous greed.

This is not just bad optics. It gets to the heart of what the multibillion-dollar enterprise that is the NCAA thinks not just of its athletes, but of its core business model. It is, in essence, admitting that student-athletes are working as slave laborers and as such do not deserve fair compensation.

Bigotry has a way of revealing itself. And that is exactly what the NCAA — by leaning on the case of a prisoner demanding he be paid as its justification for denying their athletes a wage of any kind — has done here. It has revealed itself to us.


Wild if true. This King dude tends to get a bit out there with some of his stories.
 

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Are these student athletes (90 % black in basketball and football) being forced to play? :jbhmm: Why are we treating people who willingly join a fukked up ass system like children? These c00ns rather massa give them some crumbs instead of forming their own league...lavar ball a clown but that nikka building his own brand...ice cube created the Big3 league and y’all laughed :beli: why? Cause having our own is unthinkable to us at this point...
 

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Are these student athletes (90 % black in basketball and football) being forced to play? :jbhmm: Why are we treating people who willingly join a fukked up ass system like children? These c00ns rather massa give them some crumbs instead of forming their own league...lavar ball a clown but that nikka building his own brand...ice cube created the Big3 league and y’all laughed :beli: why? Cause having our own is unthinkable to us at this point...

Its a different form of Slavery because the players (Black ones) have learned helplessness they don't think they can make money any other way than to make it in the NBA or form their own league.

They are victims still. Just because we don't see them being held up at gun point or in prison to play don't mean they are not being enslaved somewhat.

Please don't call the players c00ns. They need our help and support to make them see the light. We can get some (not all) to turn around and figure it out have to focus on that.

AGAIN.

WHERE ARE ALL THE NCAA FANS AT WHY ARE THE THREADS ABOUT THE TRUTH DRY AS fukk?

WHY ARE THREADS ABOUT LIES FULL?
 

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Its a different form of Slavery because the players (Black ones) have learned helplessness they don't think they can make money any other way than to make it in the NBA or form their own league.

They are victims still. Just because we don't see them being held up at gun point or in prison to play don't mean they are not being enslaved somewhat.

Please don't call the players c00ns. They need our help and support to make them see the light. We can get some (not all) to turn around and figure it out have to focus on that.

AGAIN.

WHERE ARE ALL THE NCAA FANS AT WHY ARE THE THREADS ABOUT THE TRUTH DRY AS fukk?

WHY ARE THREADS ABOUT LIES FULL?
With all that said, why the fukk do they keep playing for free? :why: Nick saban getting $5 milly a year on the backs of these kids and the fukked up part is, he’s a mediocre ass coach and got exposed in the NFL...now suddenly he’s a god because he gets the best talent in the country every year? :pachaha: nikka I can win a national championship coaching Alabama...at what point do the kids parents step up and don’t let these kids play? :why: These c00ns hoping their kids make it so they can live off them...Black Muslim c00ns can boycott Israel but won’t boycott the NFL :why: spineless ass fakkits...
 

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Things Jewish agents say for 500
What's Israel got to do with this thread?
Kikes can't help themselves...
Showing how spineless black Muslims are...they’re quick to defend sand cacs 3000 miles away in the Middle East but not their own brothers next door...
 

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And no it’s not sensationalist. They really made this argument, doesn’t look like King is the only one saying it either
 

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Are these student athletes (90 % black in basketball and football) being forced to play? :jbhmm: Why are we treating people who willingly join a fukked up ass system like children? These c00ns rather massa give them some crumbs instead of forming their own league...lavar ball a clown but that nikka building his own brand...ice cube created the Big3 league and y’all laughed :beli: why? Cause having our own is unthinkable to us at this point...
Who the fukk is your never been an athlete in your life to call high school athletes on their way to college c00ns?

fukk outta here and take this neg with your dumb ass
 

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Who the fukk is your never been an athlete in your life to call high school athletes on their way to college c00ns?

fukk outta here and take this neg with your dumb ass
They’re c00ns cause they keep playing for FREE and now the NCAA is using slave amendments as a reason why these kids won’t get paid...tv networks signing BILLION dollar deals with these conferences on the backs of these black kids’ FREE labor...they are c00nS for participating in that bullshyt and you’re a fukking fakkit for negging me...emotional ass nikka :skip:
 

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They’re c00ns cause they keep playing for FREE and now the NCAA is using slave amendments as a reason why these kids won’t get paid...tv networks signing BILLION dollar deals with these conferences on the backs of these black kids’ FREE labor...they are c00nS for participating in that bullshyt and you’re a fukking fakkit for negging me...emotional ass nikka :skip:
fukk outta here. A kid trying to showcase his skills to get to the NFL or NBA can’t find alternatives that will put them in front of those leagues.

You’re dumb as fukk.
 

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fukk outta here. A kid trying to showcase his skills to get to the NFL or NBA can’t find alternatives that will put them in front of those leagues.

You’re dumb as fukk.
You excuse that c00n shyt :stopitslime: cacs definitely gonna pay them minimum wage sometimes in the future but for now they can play for free :lolbron: c00n ass nikka...
 
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