i got to watch the whole interview. his son could have rightly scammed him, but, also, there are equally a number of cases where families come up with elaborate schemes to transfer assets to their children to get out of paying inheritance tax or because they want to apply for benefits and need to hide their assets so they transfer those assets in family members names to not be detected. could be a number of explanations. and i'm only saying this because when his son said the business was both his and his father's, hearns did not protest or react. but he could've just been trying to process the information and didn't know what to say in the moment or shocked. like i said, could be other explanations, don't know if i can properly say he scammed him from just this clip.