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Timbaland Says No More Producers Anymore, Calls Drake The King
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u not letting nikkas be producers by taking all they credit
if a nikka like j-roc got credited right he would be way up and getting solo work left and right
some kid from germany made the whole pusha t untouchable beat timbaland doesn't touch shyt
a producer is one who shapes a record
so i guess telling a rapper "wait record that take again" is more "real producing" than making the all the music in a song
if the "real producer" wasn't in the studio the tracking engineer woulda coached the recording anyway
How is Timbaland taking all credit? J-Roc is credited with co-production on most of Timbaland's production from 2009- present. There's even breakdowns of what he contributed to each track.
This goes to show that you don't even know who J-Roc is outside of his work with Timbaland. Dude was a Gospel musician working with Kirk Franklin before linking with Tim. He didn't even operate in Hip Hop, R&B, or Pop. He played various instruments on Tim productions even during the time Tim had Danja. J-Roc has worked with other producers, but even then he has no solo productions.
J-Roc doesn't get solo work because he's more of a musician than he is a producer.
Milli didn't do "Untouchable". For the most part, Milli specializes in Trap beats.
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get off old nikkas diccs they succ at music in 2016 and ride off ghost producers writing all they melodies programming all they beats then say making a comment or two to jay z in the booth is "real producing"
i guess young guru produce all jay z shyt thenthat real producing bullshyt is 100% based on your status (if jay cares what you think) and finances (if you can drop all your obligations and fly out to the recording session), only dumbass nikkas like you think a nikka like tim who was hot 15 years ago has some midas touch in 2016 and nikkas that do all of his music can't possibly make jay z record a good song (he gon do that by himself anyway)
and right that's why he got a pusha display picture
MIIII ® (@millibeatz) • Instagram photos and videosmy source is another german ghostproducer, ur a coli dumbass
get off old nikkas diccs they succ at music in 2016 and ride off ghost producers writing all they melodies programming all they beats then say making a comment or two to jay z in the booth is "real producing"
that real producing bullshyt is 100% based on your status (if jay cares what you think) and finances (if you can drop all your obligations and fly out to the recording session), only dumbass nikkas like you think a nikka like tim who was hot 15 years ago has some midas touch in 2016 and nikkas that do all of his music can't possibly make jay z record a good song (he gon do that by himself anyway)
and right that's why he got a pusha display picture
my source is another german ghostproducer, ur a coli dumbass
Put it this way, production is more than making a beat. Anybody can make a beat, but crafting a song specific to an artist's style or taste is what producers do.
Timbaland a producer with a history of making hits and crafting albums for artists over the course of three decades ('90's, '00's, '10's) doesn't have the midas touch, but a producer who you've never heard of before today is out here churning out hits without Timbo?
. What's Milli done before linking with Timbaland that's blown up? So because Pusha T is Milli's display picture, that means he did the entire "Untouchable" record by himself?
. The fact that Milli was "just some kid from Germany to you" says everything. You don't even know who he is.i don't need to know my german slime knowPut it this way, production is more than making a beat. Anybody can make a beat, but crafting a song specific to an artist's style or taste is what producers do.
Timbaland a producer with a history of making hits and crafting albums for artists over the course of three decades ('90's, '00's, '10's) doesn't have the midas touch, but a producer who you've never heard of before today is out here churning out hits without Timbo?
So because Pusha T is Milli's display picture, that means he did the entire "Untouchable" record by himself?
he did the untouchable record down to the sample in the hook it's a bite from a german rap song
a nikka that's hot right now and has relevant ears and actual music making ability > timbo
mustard > timbo
nic nac > timbo
drake's whole team > timbo
all tim did was play agent on that pusha track
pusha writes all his own shyt and needs no direction
bet he didn't even record that shyt with timbo
all he did was email a milli beat to Pusha A&R
real producer brehsi don't need to know my german slime know
he did the untouchable record down to the sample in the hook it's a bite from a german rap song
a nikka that's hot right now and has relevant ears and actual music making ability > timbo
mustard > timbo
nic nac > timbo
drake's whole team > timbo
all tim did was play agent on that pusha track
pusha writes all his own shyt and needs no direction
bet he didn't even record that shyt with timbo
all he did was email a milli beat to Pusha A&R
So basically, you don't know.
Aside from Boi-1da and 40, the rest of them aren't even hot right now. What's crazy is all of them have co-producers. Most of 40's work is produced with someone else. Speaking of Drake's team, big up the team who stans the producer you're trying to discredit.
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vinylz on fire
nineteen85 just did hotline bling
frank dukes just got on kanye album with 1da
timbaland did a non-charting pusha single that he didn't even touch what a fraud
but i bet he wrote something in the email to pusha's manager when he sent the pro tools file that really inspired pusha's pen and vocal performance
that's what real producing isor they were on facetime for 5 minutes while pusha tracked his vocals in his home studio
what a dumbass
vinylz on fire
nineteen85 just did hotline bling
frank dukes just got on kanye album with 1da
timbaland did a non-charting pusha single that he didn't even touch what a fraud
but i bet he wrote something in the email to pusha's manager when he sent the pro tools file that really inspired pusha's pen and vocal performance
or they were on facetime for 5 minutes while pusha tracked his vocals in his home studio
what a dumbass
Vinylz isn't on fire. What hits has he done recently?
Doing one hot single isn't the equivalent to being hot.
Getting a placement on a big album isn't exactly hot either.
By your definition, Timbaland is on fire right now. He's on Rihanna's new album. "Sorry Not Sorry" is on the charts. Oh, wait, you're going to try to argue that he has co-producers doing all the beats. If you're going that route, you must be ignorant to the fact that most of the producers you listed also have co-producers on most of their work.
Put it this way, Timbaland's career begins where their's peaks at. It's like comparing Jay Z to one of these new generation rappers and running with the "Jay hops trends" cop out to big up the new generation (when you could say the same about this one).
tiller is milli yet again
vinylz: blessings, planes, multiple songs on cole's platinum album
was hottest new producer of '13/14 and still riding that wave
while u in a basement stanning timbaland young nikkas is getting money and making better shyt than wacc ass timbaland
he not making no relevant music and his name ain't in the icon category like a dr dre jay z to be relevant without music
old ass nikka can't even make music no more
can this nikka even play an instrument
jigga what was 17 years ago move on u old ass nicca
point blank period the old ass nicca is wacc and no one care if u a "real producer" if u wacc
Look somebody's mad that an old guy is better than these young dudes who are already flabby n sick sonically. One of the Vinylz joints that was hot in '13/14 had additional production from Timbaland. Read the credits. In that time period Timbaland produced the biggest album of that year and two other albums that were huge. The producers you're stanning were trying to get work on Beyonce's self titled, surprise album while Timbaland actually made it and had several songs on it. A lot of the songs he produced during that time period are bigger than anything the guys you listed have done.
Rick Ross, who was still beefing with Tim, listed him among the icons in the same breath as Dre.
Everything you've said to knock Tim could be used against all these producers you're stanning.
Last, you're furious for absolutely no reason at all. .
old ass nicca used his name from the 90s and 2000s to snake his way on some credits what a surprise
there's no magic in a timbaland "production"
like that fat nikka dancing in the studio makes the record so much better or some shyt
u are true dumbass
in rap
1) u make a beat and it gets picked
2) the rapper says what he wants on the beat
depending on ur status u may get input on 2 as a producer but rappers write they own shyt anyway
sohh i guess milli "just makes beats" but timbaland telling a nikka "hey do that take again" (if he even did that, nikkas send files these days and timbaland ain't leaving the house to work on tiller, who was a nobody before that project blew, or push who is perpetually a C-list rapper) really made the record what it is, not the musical foundation of the track
ur logic stupid af
a song's instrumental is the biggest part of the song aside from the artists voice
a slightly less perfect take here or there or a word choice difference in a line makes almost no difference
if a different instrumental is swapped into a song it'll be radically different
writers feed off the ideas in the instrumental, so u would be giving creative input from just "making a beat"
i guess some fat washed nikka sitting in ur session doing damn near nothing is what really inspires an artist, not the musical content of the beat
everything is guided by the beat, if someone wants to give tips here and there that's secondary to the beat
a nikka like push isn't taking a wacc beat from tim and hoping tim will show up the stu and coach him how to make a good song from this wacc beat
dumbass
So what exactly are Vinlyz, Frank Dukes, etc. doing to receive credit for their production? Using your logic, they aren't doing the work either.
There's no magic in Timbaland's production, yet the likes of Beyonce, Jay Z, Rihanna, etc. still use him.
There's soundclick producers who sell instrumentals all day. There's a difference between a random soundclick producer and people who made it like a Johnny Juliano. The difference is that Johnny Juliano developed a sound with Wiz. It isn't just about instrumentals.
Status has nothing to do with getting a production credit if you aren't delivering something that people like. Tricky and The Dream are big names in the industry. When's the last time you've seen their name in a credit? The industry does not care who you are and it's moved away from a producer getting work because of their name. There have been more up and coming producers getting work on big projects than ever before and it's possibly cheaper.
sohh i guess milli "just makes beats" but timbaland telling a nikka "hey do that take again" (if he even did that, nikkas send files these days and timbaland ain't leaving the house to work on tiller, who was a nobody before that project blew, or push who is perpetually a C-list rapper) really made the record what it is, not the musical foundation of the track
^^^ Timbaland has made hits for artists people never heard of before. Nobody knew Petey, Nicole Wray, Bubba Sparxxx, or Tweet. He has mixtape full of artists that aren't known.