Tommy Dreamer is pissed off. At you.

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In this excerpt from his regular column, Tommy Dreamer discusses indy promoting and Internet piracy. And how much he hates people like you.

Full column: CANOE -- SLAM! Sports - Wrestling - Tommy Dreamer columns : House of Hardcore 2 a matter of when, not if

To run a wrestling event, you need advertising, which costs money. I ran commercials during Monday Night Raw and SmackDown, as well on radio. In all, promoting the show cost me roughly $5,000. I also had to choose whether to do an Internet pay-per-view (IPPV) or showcase the show on DVD, or both. I chose to do just a DVD, which was made available a month after the show. The IPPV costs about $1,500, while my DVD post-production costs were about $1,000. You can see how the costs climbed long before even one ticket was sold.

The DVD was released and I consider it mildly successful, having sold about 400 units. I was alerted to a website where it could be downloaded illegally and saw that my show was viewed more than 600 times, which ripped my heart out and made me very angry. This was just on one website. I know this is a huge problem, not just for me, but worldwide. I'm fairly easygoing, I don't mind clips on YouTube, but quick math tells me that 600 times $20 — $12,000 — well that is money that could have been used for future shows, advertising or other budgetary things. I'm just a small-time promotion. I can only imagine the mass pirating that WWE must deal with.

I even hired a firm that goes after these types of websites and I was told that there is basically nothing I can do because most of these sites emanate from foreign countries, where there are no laws governing the Internet and piracy yet. However, these illegal sites offer users zero protection. They are in it strictly for whatever revenue they get from advertisers or sponsors, and will give up any and all the information they have on the people who are ordering from their site or downloading from it.

In time, this will be stopped as foreign governments are slowly getting involved, but in the meantime, if you are ordering or downloading, please remember that it is all traceable and illegal. I personally know two people who were charged for pirating-related crimes. I personally wouldn't go after the little guy, but other companies can and do. I was, however, disappointed at some people's responses on Twitter when I alerted them to it.

The bottom line is it is illegal to steal, whether it be movies, UFC, WWE or little old House of Hardcore. That annoying blue screen at the beginning of DVDs with the government anti-piracy label is to protect those rights of content. Now you know how the little guy feels and how it affects future business. It is taking money out of someone's pocket and putting it in someone else's hands who will sell you out in a heartbeat because they have amnesty for now, but you don't.

Because of all of this, I will probably just not make House of Hardcore 2 available on any format and go old school. Thus, I will cut my costs and make it a must-see, live only event. If you are not there, you'll miss out.

I look forward to 2013 I want to thank everyone for reading and supporting my column. Happy new year and make this year better than last. We aren't guaranteed time, so make it last.

Thanks for reading.
 
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Keep talkin and beulah is next :birdman:

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I blame Vince. If he brings the quality up id support wrestling in general more often. If the sjows are continually good ill buy them regularly. Like I do PWG. I understand his frustration though.
 

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In time, this will be stopped as foreign governments are slowly getting involved, but in the meantime, if you are ordering or downloading, please remember that it is all traceable and illegal. I personally know two people who were charged for pirating-related crimes. I personally wouldn't go after the little guy, but other companies can and do. I was, however, disappointed at some people's responses on Twitter when I alerted them to it.

The bottom line is it is illegal to steal, whether it be movies, UFC, WWE or little old House of Hardcore. That annoying blue screen at the beginning of DVDs with the government anti-piracy label is to protect those rights of content. Now you know how the little guy feels and how it affects future business. It is taking money out of someone's pocket and putting it in someone else's hands who will sell you out in a heartbeat because they have amnesty for now, but you don't.
Goddamn Tommy Dreamer's a fakkit. Not every download is money in your pocket :upsetfavre:
Most people probably wouldn't have bought that show in the first place and they just downloaded it because it was free content.

Dude needs to man up and stop blaming other people because he can't draw.
 

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:smugfavre: Well he can't be mad at me. I never cared enough to watch his show illegal or legally.
 

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I was alerted to a website where it could be downloaded illegally and saw that my show was viewed more than 600 times, which ripped my heart out and made me very angry

fukking sap:laugh:
 

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Vince and wwe can afford to deal with some piracy and youtube showing off old wwe and wwf stuff because he has a stream of income from live shows and ppvs. People who want DVDs for their collection are not the type to pirate something and if they do they want to go out and buy it. Someone like Tommy Dreamer who does small time stuff i can understand the anger.He should have done both ippv and DVD but today you have to be aware of piracy and create a marketing plan that takes that aspect into account.

Also all 600 views don't mean a purchase plenty of people will watch something if its free but live without seeing it if they have to pay for it.
 

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It goes both ways because the free content online is also word of mouth and advertising for your business. Not all 600 people would've bought the DVD in the first place and most of them watched it because it was free.

It's a success if some of these people decide to buy DVD's in the future and attend a live show.
 

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It's a crock. Just use the Taken formula. EVERYONE DOWNLOADED Taken when it came out in DVD quality early but everyone liked it so much, they STILL went out and supported it when it came out. If it's good, it's gonna be successful no matter what.
 

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He needs to get over himself if he thinks people are going to spend money to watch his shytty hardcore wrestling DVD. Why not release it through digital download for like $5 instead of ripping people off by charging them $15-$20 for something that's not worth it? He's just mad his DVD flopped and is trying to justify piracy for his low sales. If your product is good, people will buy it regardless. That's already been proven.
 
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