Torraine Walker, Dr. TJ Curry, and others discuss Black Male studies
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Piff Perkins
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What’s the general view on black male studies? I don’t know much about it but my general assumption is that we’d be as worthy of academic study as anyone. Feminist studies allow for the centering of black or Hispanic women studies for instance.
I know that there’s been pushback on the need for black male studies from certain…people.
I know that there’s been pushback on the need for black male studies from certain…people.
Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
You should listen
They talk about needing to push back against shytting on Black Men, and needing to infiltrate media
there is pushback against it from cacs and black feminists not based on any legitimate critique but anti black male hatred.
Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
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Rakim Allah
Superstar
This was beyond great, friends. Especially when Dr Curry and Dr T entered the building.
xiceman191
Superstar
I was there live when they were having the discussion. shyt is great. Y'all should listen to it if you got the time to do so.
Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
I'm glad they're fighting against it
They need to be very careful who they work with
No Tariqs. They will throw the message off course
Messaging is everything
xiceman191
Superstar
Yea it was good to have a really positive space that wasn't all about shytting on black men. It was a highly respectful and educational discussion. I would agree that Tariq shouldn't be a part of this and not to sound
but I don't think he has the level of professionalism or even education to properly represent the arguments these brothers were trying to bring across. I'm glad there was such a good turnout and I really do think slowly but surely we are starting to see more people push back against the bullshyt.
fukking in
You do know that ADOS Black Men are the most studied group by certain ....people meaning white people.
I'd assume that since brothers like Dr. Tommy Curry are leading the charge it's probably a critical look at Black Men and the conditions especially in america.
It isn't viewed favorably, in part due to the caustic nature of some of its proponents.
It is absolutely an area worth studying and there is a vast array of knowledge to be gathered. But when it is reduced to its lowest soundbites - which even Dr. Curry does, occasionally, it basically ends up being anti-feminist arm flailing and losing its substance. I've even seen him post random charts showing that Black women have a higher employment rate, as proof that there is no patriarchy (undermining his far more nuanced and thoughtful writing in works like The Man-Not).
I think Frank B. Wilderson III actually does a good job of framing Black men as a group that exists as both racialized and gendered, in a way that doesn't discount one from the other, or engage in sloppy oppression Olympics.
The same for Sylvia Wynter and Saidiya Haartman. I definitely would love if more work was done in this area - I attend the National Black Male retreat and see a variety of ideologies and work being done on a macro-level there, which is why I retain my interest.
I think that Angela Davis also does a remarkable job of framing some of the underlying bases for Black Male Studies in her book Women, Race & Class which somehow ends up oft-ignored.
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Yea it was good to have a really positive space that wasn't all about shytting on black men. It was a highly respectful and educational discussion. I would agree that Tariq shouldn't be a part of this and not to sound
Dudes have PHD's not even shytting on Tariq but why would he want in on the convo? It's not even History in the sense of traditional Black History. This is by credentialed Folks No one is gonna bring up Chem trails on here.
I think they thread the needle pretty well and if you're judging it on what Black feminist studies are, They barely criticize white men the majority of the criticism is focused on Black Men with a dollop of Black female separatism aka Divestment.