Trap Or Die's GOAT Candidacy/Appreciation Thread...

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First of all, yes, there are way too many threads in The Booth of 90s/00s era rap and rappers, I take that sentiment 100%. Unfortunately, I'm about to add to that list here...

Two, as long as Coli been active, I'm stunned there has never really been a Trap Or Die appreciation and discussion thread. Floored....

Three, for those of you who don't know, I'm referencing Jeezy's magnum opus, "Trap Or Die", that was released to the streets early '05, dominated that summer, and was later repackaged and sold for profit...

All that out of the way:

Its time to have a real discussion on this record. Without a doubt, one of, and arguably THE, greatest mixtape ever. One of the seminal albums of 2000s hip hop, no doubt about it...

For those of you who are old enough to remember when it dropped, and many of you I expect are, take that memory lane stroll real quick. What were your thoughts when it came out? What was the atmosphere like in your city surrounding it?

I can tell you this, from December '04 to December '05, I lived from Richmond, Va to Los Angeles to Fayetteville, NC and this joint was cracking in all three places. I've always been of the opinion that it was popular everywhere, particularly as I met people in the coming years from other parts of the country...

Its aged a hell of a lot better than I think anyone could have guessed. This record was a complete monster outside, while Jeezy was being ripped by a number of hip hop purists and artists publicly for being a trash rapper. But the gravity of this record was amazing, it was undeniable, there was something about it that made it immensely popular...

Listening to it again brings up hella memories of hearing this shyt blazing everywhere. Time to have that discussion...

One of the most powerful, influential, and momentous (from a popularity standpoint and impact on The Culture) rap records of all time, Trap Or Die...
 

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Obviously Jeezy isn't the first of his kind to come along in hip hop, but he was extraordinarily unique in an era of mad pump faking in hip hop, and different because most cats in hip hop with the background he brought in, weren't the rappers. They funded the rappers, they owned labels and clubs, they rubbed elbows with rappers and celebrities, and we know who thesr guys were...

But they weren't the rappers themselves, 99.9% of the time...

His backstory leading up to Trap Or Die is part of what made the record so iconic. Most people didn't know who he was before this tape (I didn't), unless you were from where he ran the hole in wall circuits in South Georgia and North Florida. Thats where he was getting his money and his legend built, and I remember hearing it back then, then as years get by it was confirmed as people from those parts (Jacksonville, Waycross, etc) knew who dude was on the club circuit...

There was alot of question on where he was from, and who he was affiliated with. Atlanta, Macon, Columbia, Rockingham NC, I've known people from ALL these places who claimed Jeezy at some point or other, and he has ties to all of them to some extent, he bounced around alot in his youth. It was also used against him by his detractors back then, people didn't know where he was from...

He openly pushed the Crip shyt and was endorsed by BMF. Dude had long paper. And he hit the scene to most people out of thin air, some nikkas wondered if he was a plant, and people targeted his lazy and simplistic rhymes...

The benefit of time showed us while not some "lyrical miracle", he was a better rapper than given credit for and his unique flow style and penchant for ad libs contribute to his brand and his legend, and the legend of Trap Or Die...

The Snowman shirts. "Trap" wasn't a rap genre before this record, it wasn't in the casual person's vocabulary before this record, and the weight of influence this has on the industry is unquantifiable. In a great year for hip hop, the overall breadth if Trap Or Die stands largest, and the thing about it is the quality is A1. This is a classic album...
 

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This was probably my most played shyt back in the day


There was so many legend points on this tape. Ether hit so gotdamn hard to me:



"I'm on the block, buster, so where the drama at/i got a Gangsta Boo, she show me where them dollars at"...

"Money talk, bullshyt walk 1000 miles/anywhere, anytime, nikka 1000 rounds"...

And of course this joint was MASSIVE on the streets:



"Last time I checked, I was the man on the streets/call me residue, I leave blow on these beats, gotta diarrhea flow, I shyt on nikkas/even when I'm constipated, i still shyt on nikkas"...

That whole opening verse is legendary...
 

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MOST OF THESE RAPPERS ARE COMPULSIVE LIARRRRSS!!!

"They can't help it, they need some help, tell me what kinda nikka tell lies on himself/then turn around tell the same lies to his fans/Disney World nikkas in fantasy land"...

"I cant slow down, thats too close to stopping/got everybody asking when the album dropping, hottest nikka in the city with no radio play/when Lets Get It drop, see what you nikkas'll say/Its Trap Or Die, nikka!"
 

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Definitely a banger and game changer. I’m from Atlanta and yea it’s hard to describe the energy that surrounded this. Nikkaz would lose they fukkin mind in the club. Soon as you heard “I’m the realest nikka in it...”
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I was impressed at the ability to make club bangers not saying shyt about a bytch.

I always wished “You Ain’t Perfect” was longer. That had the makings of a classic record.

But yea, I’d have to say it’s the hardest mixtape of all time.
 

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low level rapping over fire beats

TM101 was a lot of fun though
 
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