Trump picks Pence as VP nominee

[Batter Up]

Boring pick but Trump finally realized he needs to secure the support of conservatives if he's gonna have any chance. For as much as he shyts on the establishment he's been doing almost everything by the book to make them happy since he replaced his campaign manager. Those canned teleprompter speeches after mocking his opponents for doing the same thing.

This is a way better pick than Gingrich. Gingrich is sleazy piece of shyt who is hated by everyone and has negatives that rival Trump.

At least Gingrich made the most of all the speculation. Dude's been on damn near every news show over the past few weeks soaking up all the media coverage like he knew it was the last time before he fades back into irrelevance for good.

 

[Batter Up]

Christie would have been a better VP pick than this prick.

That monthly White House food bill if they got elected though

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

All Trump can run on now is that he's anti-free trade and is unpredictable. It might work but I don't know if independents are gonna be lining up for an otherwise hard right wing ticket.

He can't even run on that.

Trump being anti-free trade is a myth. He profits from it. And his language is the same empty rhetoric: "I'll renegoiate trade deals for the best deals yadda yadda".

I think he's gonna hammer the "Law & Order" angle from now on. I think that will be the dominant theme in his playbook going forward. These terrorist attacks have people questioning the status quo, and Trump has positioned himself as the strongman candidate. If there's another large scale attack between now and November, especially in the US, it'll severely tilt the scales to Trump.

A real strongman that wants to torture the families of suspected terrorists. Sounds like Putin.

 

[StatUS]

He can't even run on that.

Trump being anti-free trade is a myth. He profits from it. And his language is the same empty rhetoric: "I'll renegoiate trade deals for the best deals yadda yadda".



A real strongman that wants to torture the families of suspected terrorists. Sounds like Putin.

You're not telling me anything I don't know there, but the masses and the terrible media will continue to report him as anti-trade. Hillary being a supporter of such will have a hard time countering that point.

 

[King Kreole]

A real strongman that wants to torture the families of suspected terrorists. Sounds like Putin.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Yeah, the more I'm thinking about it, the less I like it. It frames Trump as the stereotypical Republican. Pence shores up that traditional Republican base, but I think Trump could have consolidated that group by picking Newt, and he wouldn't have to defend all the stupid crap that Pence has in his history. Pence is better than Christie, but worse than Newt. Trump didn't have many options tho

Like Newt doesn't have more "stupid crap" in his history.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Pick awful running mates, Brehs!

 

[King Kreole]

Like Newt doesn't have more "stupid crap" in his history.

Pence was the face of that recent wave of anti-gay service, religious freedom stuff. That's the type of shyt that will bring out opposition voters. There's nothing in Newt's history that's as toxic as that.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Pence was the face of that recent wave of anti-gay service, religious freedom stuff. That's the type of shyt that will bring out opposition voters.

Mike Pence isn't the face of anything. The average voter didn't even know who Mike Pence was before 2 days ago. Your argument makes no sense because any "anti-gay, religious freedom stuff" you ascribe to Pence, Gingrich holds the same position. Newt Gingrich was always a staunch social conservative who was against gay marriage and pro life. He wants defund Planned Parenthood. He even said if he was President he would ignore the SCOTUS ruling that struck down anti-gay marriage laws.

Newt Gingrich is more responsible for the intransigent, uncompromising hard right turn the GOP took from the 90's until now than any one individual.

There's nothing in Newt's history that's as toxic as that.

 

[Scoop]

Mike Pence isn't the face of anything. The average voter didn't even know who Mike Pence was before 2 days ago. Your argument makes no sense because any "anti-gay, religious freedom stuff" you ascribe to Pence, Gingrich holds the same position. Newt Gingrich was always a staunch social conservative who was against gay marriage and pro life. He wants defund Planned Parenthood. He even said if he was President he would ignore the SCOTUS ruling that struck down anti-gay marriage laws.

Newt Gingrich is more responsible for the intransigent, uncompromising hard right turn the GOP took from the 90's until now than any one individual.

Newt's baggage is largely stuff no one cares about in 2016, for better or worse.

"Religious freedom" bills could get the hippies to the polls.

Anyway Pence said today he supports the wall and the Muslim ban. Now we just need him saying no TPP/NAFTA and #Trumpset will be good again.

 

[King Kreole]

Mike Pence isn't the face of anything. The average voter didn't even know who Mike Pence was before 2 days ago. Your argument makes no sense because any "anti-gay, religious freedom stuff" you ascribe to Pence, Gingrich holds the same position. Newt Gingrich was always a staunch social conservative who was against gay marriage and pro life. He wants defund Planned Parenthood. He even said if he was President he would ignore the SCOTUS ruling that struck down anti-gay marriage laws.

Newt Gingrich is more responsible for the intransigent, uncompromising hard right turn the GOP took from the 90's until now than any one individual.

The point isn't that their views differ, it's that one is more prominently representative of those views than the other. That Indiana bill was big news, Pence was on every news network defending it. To the degree that Pence is known, he's known for that. To the degree that Gingrich is known, it's definitely not for being some typical right wing christian extremist nutjob. That's the point. It's easier to paint Pence with that brush than it is Newt.

Anyway Pence said today he supports the wall and the Muslim ban.

Pence said "I am very supportive of Donald Trump's call to temporarily suspend immigration from countries where terrorist influence and impact represents a certain threat to the United States" which is exactly what I said would happen in the Trump thread.

Now we just need him saying no TPP/NAFTA and #Trumpset will be good again.

Pence Walks Back Positions on Muslims, TPP to Stand With Trump

Pence also walked back his support of the proposed Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal.

“I think when we elect one of the best negotiators in the world as president of the United States I'm open to renegotiating these trade agreements,” he said.

Also exactly what I said would happen.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Newt's baggage is largely stuff no one cares about in 2016, for better or worse.

"Religious freedom" bills could get the hippies to the polls.

No it's stuff you and king kreole don't care about because unlike most voters you're young and appear to have discovered Newt Gingrich during the Trump campaign.

Newt Gingrich spearheaded the government shutdown in the 90's and it blew up in his face politically and he had a mutiny by his own party who gave him an ultimatum and forced him out over his ethics violations and other things.

Newt Gingrich is generally seen as a douchebag by the general public, as well as almost everyone who worked with him. He wasn't called the most hated man in politics for no reason. And it's not ancient forgotten history. There was a poll that showed him having 63% disapproval in 2012, while he was running in the GOP primary.

Not to mention having 3 wives and several affairs, and leaving one of them while she was dying of cancer, saying racist stuff, etc.

Nobody who's knowledgeable about the political landscape in this country thinks Newt Gingrich as VP would be a good political move. He can run his think tanks or whatever but politically he is toxic waste.

 

[Scoop]

Ok basically your Newt baggage is in two groups:

Newt Gingrich spearheaded the government shutdown in the 90's and it blew up in his face politically and he had a mutiny by his own party who gave him an ultimatum and forced him out over his ethics violations and other things.

Govt shutdowns are bad but are simply conflicts between the branches. Clinton could've met Gingrich's demands to prevent it or vice versa.

The shutdown was followed by four balanced budgets and a re election of the R majority in Congress.

Not to mention having 3 wives and several affairs, and leaving one of them while she was dying of cancer, saying racist stuff, etc.

No one cares about this National Enquirer 3 wife drama about what he said to her on her death bed or whatever. This is 2016, like I said, for better or worse that's how things are now. We have one candidate who is an adultery enabler and another one on his third wife. The idea that any of these things in the quote matter was a construct of the establishment. And luckily that idea is now gone. This is to be the VP of the U.S., how many wives you had doesn't effect policy or how well the country turns out.