Trump Pushes to Designate Muslim Brotherhood a Terrorist Group

[ADevilYouKhow]

Trump Pushes to Designate Muslim Brotherhood a Terrorist Group


Hmm...

 

[ill]

What are we supposed to be outraged about here?

 

[Strapped]

Are we surprised

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Are we surprised

They’re a political/social movement?

 

[Trajan]

 

[ORDER_66]

Who the fukk specifically is the muslim brotherhood???

 

[Professor Emeritus]

What are we supposed to be outraged about here?

That he's making a mockery of the terrorist group designation process and is now basically just appeasing violent extremist Middle Eastern regimes.

The Muslim Brotherhood is the previous Egyptian government, democratically elected in a fair election. They were thrown out via military coup and replaced by a far less democratic government that has committed far more acts of violence and terrorism than they did. In a vacuum it may be fair to designate the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group, but to do so at the bequest of President-for-Life Sisi is cynical to the extreme.

Same with Iran's Revolutionary Guard - we've only designated them terrorists because the Saudis they fight a proxy war with have asked us too, even though those same Saudis are just as violent and facilitating just as much terror as Iran is. Not to mention, you know, our own CIA.


It's like if the refs suddenly started calling every hold in the NFL except when the Patriots did it. Or every moving screen except when the Warriors did it. Would you say, "Okay, that's fair, that is a legitimate foul whether you like it or not," or would you admit that there was an obvious agenda in the partiality?

 

[ill]

That he's making a mockery of the terrorist group designation process and is now basically just appeasing violent extremist Middle Eastern regimes.

The Muslim Brotherhood is the previous Egyptian government, democratically elected in a fair election. They were thrown out via military coup and replaced by a far less democratic government that has committed far more acts of violence and terrorism than they did. In a vacuum it may be fair to designate the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group, but to do so at the bequest of President-for-Life Sisi is cynical to the extreme.

Same with Iran's Revolutionary Guard - we've only designated them terrorists because the Saudis they fight a proxy war with have asked us too, even though those same Saudis are just as violent and facilitating just as much terror as Iran is. Not to mention, you know, our own CIA.


It's like if the refs suddenly started calling every hold in the NFL except when the Patriots did it. Or every moving screen except when the Warriors did it. Would you say, "Okay, that's fair, that is a legitimate foul whether you like it or not," or would you admit that there was an obvious agenda in the partiality?

Both the IRGC and the Muslim Brotherhood are terrorist organizations. Just because someone worse came in after MB does not absolve them of their crimes. It’s obvious there’s an agenda behind it but that really doesn’t matter.

Either way I was mostly trolling 88

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Same with Iran's Revolutionary Guard - we've only designated them terrorists because the Saudis they fight a proxy war with have asked us too, even though those same Saudis are just as violent and facilitating just as much terror as Iran is. Not to mention, you know, our own CIA.

This isn't true.

Iran has been doing literal terrorism abroad.

And by equating the CIA and IRGC...you just proved that the IRGC is BY YOUR DEFINITION, a terrorist organization

Iran and state-sponsored terrorism - Wikipedia

@88m3

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Both the IRGC and the Muslim Brotherhood are terrorist organizations. Just because someone worse came in after MB does not absolve them of their crimes. It’s obvious there’s an agenda behind it but that really doesn’t matter.

Either way I was mostly trolling 88

I don't think you get it. It's not just that someone worse came along. It's that we're making this move at the direct bidding of that someone.

It's the equivalent of the CIA launching a war against Black drug dealers because the Mexican mafia asked them to reduce their competition.Or the CIA shooting Colombian drug suppliers while giving arms directly to Nicaraguan drug suppliers.

 

[thatrapsfan]

That he's making a mockery of the terrorist group designation process and is now basically just appeasing violent extremist Middle Eastern regimes.

The Muslim Brotherhood is the previous Egyptian government, democratically elected in a fair election. They were thrown out via military coup and replaced by a far less democratic government that has committed far more acts of violence and terrorism than they did. In a vacuum it may be fair to designate the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group, but to do so at the bequest of President-for-Life Sisi is cynical to the extreme.

Same with Iran's Revolutionary Guard - we've only designated them terrorists because the Saudis they fight a proxy war with have asked us too, even though those same Saudis are just as violent and facilitating just as much terror as Iran is. Not to mention, you know, our own CIA.


It's like if the refs suddenly started calling every hold in the NFL except when the Patriots did it. Or every moving screen except when the Warriors did it. Would you say, "Okay, that's fair, that is a legitimate foul whether you like it or not," or would you admit that there was an obvious agenda in the partiality?

Its not a terrorist group even in a vacuum.

The vast majority of MB affiliated parties renounced violence a long time ago. Its a loose umbrella group of conservativoliticial Islamists, who vary according to their national context. No reasonable person can argue the AKP (Turkey), Ennhada( Tunisia), or PJD (Morocco) just for example, are terrorist groups, even if you dislike their politics. Its a transparently obvious political gambit by the Gulf/Egypt axis to outlaw groups who are in favour of electoral politics in the region, which threatens their stranglehold over their political arena. There is nothing more to it. They are using the language of terrorism because they know it appeals to Western audience, and especially to this Administration.

From an American politics perspective, theres an entire movement of groups intent on criminalizing all publicly active religious Muslims as sleeper cells/sympathizers. This admin has many people who are sympathetic to this movement, or were active members (Pompeo for example). Its not hard to picture this designation being used to criminalize an organization like CAIR in record time, by association. Many right-wing thinktanks influential in this admin, like the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, are also in favour of the designation because it gets them closer to their strategic ambition of this region with the Gulf/Egypt leading most Arab states to construct better ties with Israel, while keeping out political parties that give voice to popular regional views of the Israel-Palestine conflict.

Should the Muslim Brotherhood be Designated a Terrorist Organization?
Comprehensive look at whether it meets the designation threshold from an American legal perspective ( it does not at all)