Trump's Tax Returns Or Hillary's Wall Street Speeches, Which Gets Released First?

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So Trump's still under a year long audit apparently. But Hillary still "looking into it" after the prerequisite that everyone else in the race who gave speeches would do so has been met.

So which domino falls first :jbhmm:
 

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Is there a precedent for releasing speeches like the one that exists for taxes? Anyway, Trump won't release his taxes for many reasons: 1) because his effective tax rate is absurdly low 2) he doesn't make as much as he claims and is nowhere near a billionaire 3) his donations to NAMBLA. :scust:


Here's an example of the kind of speeches she gives:

 

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Is there a precedent for releasing speeches like the one that exists for taxes? Anyway, Trump won't release his taxes for many reasons: 1) because his effective tax rate is absurdly low 2) he doesn't make as much as he claims and is nowhere near a billionaire 3) his donations to NAMBLA. :scust:


Here's an example of the kind of speeches she gives:


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So Trump's still under a year long audit apparently. But Hillary still "looking into it" after the prerequisite that everyone else in the race who gave speeches would do so has been met.

So which domino falls first :jbhmm:
neither, because it doesn't matter.... well, it matters to the psyche of some voters, but in the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter... let's say clinton releases her goldman sachs speeches and there's a bombshell in there... will clinton supporters suddenly switch over to vote for trump, or will they just spin and lie and pretend there was nothing really there? if trump's tax returns were released and there was a bombshell in them, would trump supporters suddenly morph into clinton supporters, or would they just spin and lie?

look, people like who they like and nothing will change that... a clinton stan is a clinton stan for life... and a trump stan is a trump stan for life.... all clinton stans will say is it's a smear tactic to take clinton down, trump stans would say it's a smear tactic to take trump down... people fall in love with personalities and stick to tribalism... i would love to see a transparent government, but does anyone truly care what their elected officials do if their supporters get their way? i seriously doubt it...
 

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what's the worst that can come from Trump's tax returns? We find out he's still filthy rich? That he pays tax rates that the USA government requires of him?

There are a lot more possibilities of Clinton's speeches, favoritism, promises etc etc

No. Where his money comes from and who he is supposedly beholden to. The same logic you use for Hillary.

Stop being stupid.

Hillary has released her 2015 taxes. Where are Trumps taxes? This yet another horrible precedent for our potential President.
 

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No. Where his money comes from and who he is supposedly beholden to. The same logic you use for Hillary.

Stop being stupid.

Hillary has released her 2015 taxes. Where are Trumps taxes? This yet another horrible precedent for our potential President.
sure i'll give you that one, except we already know and his assets aren't a secret and he's being audited by the IRS

i think you're being unfair by brushing off secret meetings by a presidential candidate with billionaires on wall street
 

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sure i'll give you that one, except we already know and his assets aren't a secret and he's being audited by the IRS

i think you're being unfair by brushing off secret meetings by a presidential candidate with billionaires on wall street

How do we know when he wont release his taxes? That's a copout.

Her taxes are now public any monies paid are apparent and should be scrutinized. This comes from her releasing her tax returns.

I'm certainly not being unfair. What's unfair is to not hold one candidate responsible for his tax returns when it's a common practice and the other candidate has complied.

What's worse is people have repeatedly asked and Trump has denied to do so.
Which leads us to what is he trying to hide?

How many "secret meetings" do you think Trump has held over the years?

Please try and use some common sense. The bar isn't set very high in releasing tax returns. We all file them more or less.
 

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How do we know when he wont release his taxes? That's a copout.

Her taxes are now public any monies paid are apparent and should be scrutinized. This comes from her releasing her tax returns.

I'm certainly not being unfair. What's unfair is to not hold one candidate responsible for his tax returns when it's a common practice and the other candidate has complied.

What's worse is people have repeatedly asked and Trump has denied to do so.
Which leads us to what is he trying to hide?

How many "secret meetings" do you think Trump has held over the years?

Please try and use some common sense. The bar isn't set very high in releasing tax returns. We all file them more or less.

this isn't about precedent, i said that her speech transcripts are more important to know about than Trump's tax returns, which they are

i didn't comment on whether he should or should not release them
 

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this isn't about precedent, i said that her speech transcripts are more important to know about than Trump's tax returns, which they are

i didn't comment on whether he should or should not release them

You're intellectually dishonest and not worth my time. You've lost the argument.
 
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