Twilight Zone: Trump considering pardoning black hero and legendary boxer Jack Johnson

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I of course expect this not to happen once Sessions and Klan leadership have a sit down with Cheeto...

Regardless though, we shouldn't be talking about this in 2018, Cheeto shouldn't have the opportunity to issue this pardon...

It is inexcusable and downright unforgivable Obama spent 8 fukking years in the oval office and did not issue this pardon to a black HERO and LEGEND who was unjustly imprisoned by a racially motivated conviction...

Jack Johnson, boxer jailed under Jim Crow, is being considered by Trump for pardon

President Trump tweeted Saturday afternoon that he will consider a posthumous pardon for boxer Jack Johnson after a call from actor Sylvester Stallone, who according to Trump explained the fighter’s “complex and controversial” life.

Johnson, the first black heavyweight champion, was convicted in 1913 under the Mann Act, federal legislation that made it illegal to cross state lines with a woman “for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose.” Jim Crow era prosecutors often used the legislation as a type of anti-miscegenation law.

Johnson was widely despised for flaunting his title, his wealth and his affection for white women. He was convicted by an all-white jury. Johnson spent seven years abroad as a fugitive before returning to the United States and turning himself in. He served about a year in federal prison.

Sylvester Stallone called me with the story of heavyweight boxing champion Jack Johnson. His trials and tribulations were great, his life complex and controversial. Others have looked at this over the years, most thought it would be done, but yes, I am considering a Full Pardon!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 21, 2018
Congressional leaders have sought a pardon for Johnson for years. A bill requesting a pardon from George W. Bush passed the House of Representatives in 2008 but died in the Senate.

A 1,000-page education bill in 2015 included a provision requesting a pardon for Johnson. It called the boxer a “flamboyant, defiant, and controversial figure in the history of the United States who challenged racial biases.”

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and former senator Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.), along with Congressmen Peter T. King (R-N.Y.) and Gregory W. Meeks (D-N.Y.), requested a pardon from President Obama in 2016.

John Arthur “Jack” Johnson, nicknamed the “Galveston Giant” in the ring, was born in 1878 southeast of Houston. By 1903, he became the unofficial “Negro heavyweight champion.” World heavyweight champion Jim Jeffries refused to fight him and instead retired. But in 1910, Johnson gained the championship belt, and Jeffries emerged from retirement to “reclaim the heavyweight championship for the white race.”

“Jeff, it’s up to you,” novelist Jack London wrote before the bout, according to NPR. “The White Man must be rescued.”

Instead, Johnson pummeled Jeffries for 15 rounds in “the battle of the century” and won the belt outright.

“I could never have whipped Johnson at my best,” Jeffries later said. “I couldn’t have hit him. No, I couldn’t have reached him in 1,000 years.”

The Mann Act was signed just weeks prior, though, and federal investigators almost immediately began looking into Johnson’s romantic life.

He married a white woman, Etta Terry Duryea, in 1911, but their relationship was rocky and she committed suicide a year later. Three months after that, he married Lucille Cameron, who was also white. Her mother was so disgusted with the relationship, she claimed Cameron had been kidnapped, but Cameron refused to cooperate with investigators.

But law enforcement agents found Belle Schreiber, a Chicago prostitute with whom Johnson had an affair years earlier. She agreed to testify against the boxer in 1913, and an all-white jury took less than two hours to convict him. He skipped bail after the trial and traveled Europe and South America with Cameron before surrendering to American agents at the Mexican border in 1920.

He served a one-year prison term in Leavenworth, Kan., and returned to find that society and the ring that wouldn’t accept him.

Before his incarceration, Johnson was known to prance around the ring with swagger. He owned a nightclub and wore gold teeth. He once reportedly purchased a pet leopard and took it for walks while sipping champagne.

But by 1921, he was past his prime, and boxing instituted a stricter color barrier. It would be another 16 years until Joe Louis defeated James Braddock in Chicago to win the world heavyweight title.

He fought, often for private audiences as celebrity appearances, until age 67 in 1945. He died a year later in a car wreck in North Carolina, speeding from a restaurant that refused him service.
 

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Whats the story behind dObama not pardoning him?

I was just watching his PBS documentary last night.

That documentary should be required watching for every black person in this country. It puts conventional wisdom with respect to race in perspective.
 

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Whats the story behind dObama not pardoning him?

  • They said the DOJ doesn't usually pardon people posthumously
  • That a better use of resources for pardons and clemency would be used on current prisoners
  • He then used those resources to grant clemency to a record number of individuals unjustly sentenced by harsh drug sentences
He helped real people where this is largely symbolic. :yeshrug:
 

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  • They said the DOJ doesn't usually pardon people posthumously
  • That a better use of resources for pardons and clemency would be used on current prisoners
  • He then used those resources to grant clemency to a record number of individuals unjustly sentenced by harsh drug sentences
He helped real people where this is largely symbolic. :yeshrug:
:ehh:
 

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  • They said the DOJ doesn't usually pardon people posthumously
  • That a better use of resources for pardons and clemency would be used on current prisoners
  • He then used those resources to grant clemency to a record number of individuals unjustly sentenced by harsh drug sentences
He helped real people where this is largely symbolic. :yeshrug:
you mean living people. jack johnson was a real person
in any case i dont see that conviction as tainting jack johnsons legacy. its more like another example of how white supremacy effected black heroes in this country.
considering the people obama pardoned this couldve been a worse use of his ability to pardon than living people. considering the people trump prdons this would be a welcome distraction.
 

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Whats the story behind dObama not pardoning him?
This is all we ever got from Obama and his administration...

"In terms of Jack Johnson, I think the Department of Justice came back recommending — not recommending a pardon on that" - White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs

Using the DOJ's recommendation to me looks like a cop-out because you already know what its going to be...The DOJ would never recommend a full pardon for him because it goes against their policy of pardoning people posthumously...

Really no excuse for the first black president not to issue a full pardon to a man who did nothing wrong other than being born black in this country...

Add the fact Obama had unilateral support from Rethugs and Dems on issuing this pardon and his decision not to becomes even more baffling...

Nobody but racist CACs would have objected...
 

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This is all we ever got from Obama and his administration...

"In terms of Jack Johnson, I think the Department of Justice came back recommending — not recommending a pardon on that" - White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs

Using the DOJ's recommendation to me looks like a cop-out because you already know what its going to be...The DOJ would never recommend a full pardon for him because it goes against their policy of pardoning people posthumously...

Really no excuse for the first black president not to issue a full pardon to a man who did nothing wrong other than being born black in this country...

Add the fact Obama had unilateral support from Rethugs and Dems on issuing this pardon and his decision not to becomes even more baffling...

Nobody but racist CACs would have objected...

Obama giving two shyts about cacs that watch Fox News was his biggest weakness as president.
 

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should have been one of those pardons obama did on his way out. it does come off like was scared about "how it would look".

jack johnson was with the shyts though. beating white boys azz, smashing their women, pulling up to his own club in the big body whip with a mouth fulla golds. they hated him with a passion and he gave 0 fukks. that said, he was getting heat from some black folk too for pawgin and "making us look bad" by being too flashy.

if trump pardons him it will be funny to watch the reaction of his slackjawed foxnews faithful. jj is the kind of black man they would hate the most if he was still alive today.
 

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should have been one of those pardons obama did on his way out. it does come off like was scared about "how it would look".

jack johnson was with the shyts though. beating white boys azz, smashing their women, pulling up to his own club in the big body whip with a mouth fulla golds. they hated him with a passion and he gave 0 fukks. that said, he was getting heat from some black folk too for pawgin and "making us look bad" by being too flashy.

if trump pardons him it will be funny to watch the reaction of his slackjawed foxnews faithful. jj is the kind of black man they would hate the most if he was still alive today.
damn now i want to see a show based on some shyt like this :lolbron:
 

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Whats the story behind dObama not pardoning him?

I was just watching his PBS documentary last night.

That documentary should be required watching for every black person in this country. It puts conventional wisdom with respect to race in perspective.


Damn I didn’t even know they had a pbs doc. What was it called?
 

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Straight out the fukkin' dungeons of rap
I of course expect this not to happen once Sessions and Klan leadership have a sit down with Cheeto...

Regardless though, we shouldn't be talking about this in 2018, Cheeto shouldn't have the opportunity to issue this pardon...

It is inexcusable and downright unforgivable Obama spent 8 fukking years in the oval office and did not issue this pardon to a black HERO and LEGEND who was unjustly imprisoned by a racially motivated conviction...

Jack Johnson, boxer jailed under Jim Crow, is being considered by Trump for pardon
So...it happened
 

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Don't know anything about the case, but the problem is Sly Stallone is a Trump supporter who happens to be a wierdo, accused rapist, with a boxing fetish, so he gives Trump the opportunity to give a good look to his critics, and do him a personal favor at the same time.

"Racist?!! Did you see who he pardoned"?
 
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