UFC On FOX 22 [12/17] "AEOM Disc 1 Track 12" (PVZ/Waterson, Super Sage/Gall, Faber's Last Fight)

[jackswstd]

My DVR didn't record Paige Vs Waterson so I'm gonna find a link and update my post.

Jouban vs Perry was a good opener, Jouban fought a smart fight and picked Perry apart at distance.

Glad to see my man Faber go out with a W and a dominant performance. I loved watching the dude fight, and was never boring in any fight from WEC to UFC. to him for a great career.

Sage shouldn't be in the UFC IMO. He's not skilled enough to compete at this level and is still young as fukk. I wasn't impressed with Gall either, his BJJ is solid but his striking is awful. He's lucky he's been in in there with guys who's striking was as bad. Smart move to drop to LW because he'll have a height advantage but calling out Dan Hardy

Paige got washed. Tried to fight not getting tapped in her hometown but went to sleep anyway.

 

[Liu Kang]

Kournikova was way better than Paige in her sport. She was actually a good pro before fame took over and she fell off. Made a major SF and QF in a way, way deeper talent pool than 115 WMMA. Also won 2 doubles slams.

Let's not forget she had Hingis as a double partner though.

But overall, your point is undeniable.

 

[The ADD]

I give her credit for not tapping

 

[Canon]

I give her credit for not tapping

it would be better if she wasn't a white belt and had actual back defense

 

[Brozay]

Damn both of Dana's kids got washed, Ronda might be done, Dana gonna need Conor in the cage ASAP

Conor all he got right now for draws, and maybe Bones when he comes back

Conor gonna make him beg for this next fight

 

[charknicks]

You guys need to chill with giving her credit for tapping. She went to 'fake' sleep so the ref would stop the fight and everyone would say that. She is an actress.

In ANY MMA fight, give me ONE other fighter who legit went out off of a rear naked choke (remember, out), and was back sitting up on there own and not gasping for air before the winning fighter was gone. Every other time, the winning fighter has to roll their dead, lifeless body off of them and the ref is in there face grabbing mouthpieces and everything.

She played you guys.

 

[123456789]

Jouban-Perry was a good fight...classic matador-bull fight...Perry was strong early on but Jouban kept attacking that body and landing those lefts and ripping that lead thigh with those kicks and just took all of Mike's steam away. Also enjoyed Jouban's backstage intvw. saying he deserves more respect. I agree. He's a solid vet and he deserves, at least, a top 15 ranking. Dude is usually exciting and he's aggressive. Let's get him in there with some names.



Faber looked GREAT. Fast....mixed it up well...showed power in both hands...hopefully he's really retired after this. Pickett is underrated. He's good everywhere. but 135 is an exceptional division. A Pickett-caliber fighter @ heavy or lhw is a challenger for the title.


Sage-Gall was fun...it was hilarious watching Sage tryna talk sh!t Sage DOES belong in the UFC...but they're pushing him too fast. Like I said, dude needs to can crush. You're the UFC. You got hundreds of guys on roster. Let Sage fight lower-tiered guys. He doesn't really know his style yet. Why are 2 of your best prospects fighting each other this soon? Sage moves up to WW and loses to a guy that's gonna try to go to another division now. So there was no purpose in this fight really. And Mickey has only had 4 fights. Dan Hardy is a GREAT 5th fight for Gall @ 55 or 70. Mickey's doing a better job @ matchmaking than the UFC is.




And PVZ should've pressed the issue more. I know MW was sidekicking her to death and that right hook was coming right behind it...but Paige really needed to press the issue more. That movement in the Rawlings fight wasn't gonna work here. And as soon as she actually got inside, she went that sloppy headlock throw attempt and Waterson murdered her on her own sh!t a few seconds later .

And like I said, you killed 2 of your prospects for nothing. Way to go, UFC.

 

[firemanBk]

^^ Bruh, you're wrong. Sage sucks. Gall was 3-0 coming in against literal scrubs and only got the fight cause he beat up a middle aged non-athletic pro wrestler. Why are you acting like he fought some ranked guy? Gall is nothing special either and will get thumped soon enough.

 

[123456789]

You could be right....but at the end of the day, everybody has to start somewhere. Gall was undefeated, stopped them all, and has a bit of a name. Why would you put him in there with another popular prospect? You ether put him in there with a lower tier vet or a young guy nobody knows. If a vet beats him, you can chalk it up to Mickey being green and he can learn from it and bounce back. If he loses to an unknown youngster, you sell it as the emergence of another good, young prospect. That way you have three good, young prospects...Gall, Sage and the guy who beat Gall.

Gall beat Sage in a high-profile co-main event in front of 2 million ppl on FOX...so now you "only" have one good, young prospect.


PVZ might be salvageable but Sage seems pretty much done as a draw and now you've given Mickey 2 huge fights so you can't slow down his career now...you gotta keep giving him tougher guys. And the 2 weight classes he competes in are welterweight and lightweight....THE TWO BEST DIVISIONS IN THE SPORT!!!!!! He won't be able to catch a break from now on. UFC's out here eating their young.

 

[LinusCaldwell]

I'm looking forward to the fight but Garbrandt came off pretty immature here

Cruz already got Cody in his feels. That mind game is real it's gonna be pure adrenaline running in Cody's body first 1-2 rounds... I see a lot of heavy swinging in Cody's future. Cody is a scraper but he's not technical enough to beat Cruz

 

[Big Jo]

You could be right....but at the end of the day, everybody has to start somewhere. Gall was undefeated, stopped them all, and has a bit of a name. Why would you put him in there with another popular prospect? You ether put him in there with a lower tier vet or a young guy nobody knows. If a vet beats him, you can chalk it up to Mickey being green and he can learn from it and bounce back. If he loses to an unknown youngster, you sell it as the emergence of another good, young prospect. That way you have three good, young prospects...Gall, Sage and the guy who beat Gall.

Gall beat Sage in a high-profile co-main event in front of 2 million ppl on FOX...so now you "only" have one good, young prospect.


PVZ might be salvageable but Sage seems pretty much done as a draw and now you've given Mickey 2 huge fights so you can't slow down his career now...you gotta keep giving him tougher guys. And the 2 weight classes he competes in are welterweight and lightweight....THE TWO BEST DIVISIONS IN THE SPORT!!!!!! He won't be able to catch a break from now on. UFC's out here eating their young.

I hear what you're saying but Gall called him out and Sage wanted the fight.

No reason to sit on the fight and not book it. If you're UFC and two young, exciting fighters want to take each other on and you ignore that, its bad matchmaking. strike while the iron is hot.

If 2 million people watched it that's pretty damn good. I was hype for it. Sage was either ready for the next level or he wasnt, its not UFC's job to protect him. He's super young anyway so I wouldn't feel too bad for him. He could lay low for a couple years, come back and wouldnt even necessarily be the age Gall is now

 

[Big Jo]

I'd be surprised if Faber stays retired after that performance.

He'll probably be in the Octagon again by the middle of 2018.

Give Faber a year or two and he'll be back on that Bellator stimulus package