University of Phoenix going Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome status

[unit321]

Apollo Education Group, the parent company of the University of Phoenix, announced its second-quarter earnings Wednesday, and things don't look great for the for-profit college.
The company's stock fell on news that total enrollment was down by 15% and revenue down by 14%.
Apollo chief of staff Mark Brenner acknowledged the declining enrollment numbers and said it was a challenging quarter and certain changes should be made to improve the downward trend.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...financial-trouble/ar-AAa08dL?ocid=mailsignout

As a prospective employer or HR person, would you just throw a resume away that said the person graduated from University of Phoenix?

 

[King Sun]

I know alot of people that are successful from going there but the costs and the possibility that a hr rep would toss your resume isn't worth it

 

[BonafideDefacto]

im going to be honest with you breh
Doing classes online was harder in my opinion than physically going to class
I actually really respect people who can complete there degree remotely while staying concentrated on the task at hand
But I would pay more attention to grades and reasoning for online classes.​

 

[88m3]

if the US had a drop of morality left they would have banned this crap years ago

 

[DEAD7]

is the education offered at UOP actually sh*t?

 

[unit321]

im going to be honest with you breh
Doing classes online was harder in my opinion than physically going to class
I actually really respect people who can complete there degree remotely while staying concentrated on the task at hand
But I would pay more attention to grades and reasoning for online classes.​

I have taken online courses for a computer program. It took 3 days to complete, not an entire semester. I can see how they can teach you what you need to know via an online course. I don't see this working for people who are not self-starters.
I kind of enjoyed, somewhat, the college experience. Going to classes, meeting people, dorm life.

 

[ill]

I look at a University of Phoenix degree as equivalent to a GED or high school diploma. If I'm the recruiter, I'd laugh at you putting that on your resume and def toss your resume in the trash.

 

[CACtain Planet]

if the US had a drop of morality left they would have banned this crap years ago

You can partly thank Liberals in the 70's for that. The faucet has been turned on and its not turning off.

 

[theworldismine13]

i think UOP is useful if you are already working in government or at a big company, where you qualify for raises and higher positions by simply having a a degree

the main problem with UOP is that most people get soft degrees that are already not in demand

 

[Objection]

is the education offered at UOP actually sh*t?

This is what I want to know. I've seen employers toss resumes from Phoenix graduates without even looking at them. What if they do a good job of teaching their students? Many colleges have online programs now so what is the difference?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

if the US had a drop of morality left they would have banned this crap years ago

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesma...-rules-tighten-screws-on-for-profit-colleges/

 

[CACtain Planet]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesma...-rules-tighten-screws-on-for-profit-colleges/

Judge Strikes Down Several Provisions of ‘Gainful Employment’ Rule

A federal judge has vacated several provisions of the controversial “gainful employment” rule, which the Department of Education issued last year in an effort to ensure that federal student-aid dollars flowing to vocational programs were good investments and helping prepare students for jobs that pay well.

The decision, by Judge Rudolph Contreras of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, was released Saturday in a case brought by an association that represents for-profit colleges, which have lobbied strongly against the rule.

Much of the ruling goes in the department’s favor, rejecting a broad challenge to its authority to issue the rule. “The gainful employment regulations are a reasonable interpretation of an ambiguous statutory command: that the Department provide Title IV funding only to schools that ‘prepare students for gainful employment in a recognized occupation,’” Judge Contreras wrote.

In looking at how the department arrived at the benchmarks it set for enforcing the rule, however, the judge found that one of them, a debt-repayment measure, was not the product of “reasoned decision-making.” That measure requires that at least 35 percent of a program’s graduates must be actively repaying their student loans.

But Judge Contreras says the department failed to provide a factual basis for why a repayment rate of 35-percent would be a “meaningful performance standard.” Instead, he wrote, it has said it chose that figure “because approximately one quarter of gainful employment programs would fail a test set at that level.” But the department could have chosen a percentage under which only one-tenth of the programs would have failed and justified it by the same rationale, he said. Therefore, he accepted the argument that the standard was arbitrary and capricious.

The judge rejected a similar argument against the rule’s other debt measures, which compare program graduates’ debt to their earnings. Those, he said, “were based upon expert studies and industry practice—objective criteria upon which the Department could reasonably rely.” But because the debt-to-income measures were intertwined with the debt-repayment measure, he said, he had to vacate them too.

By the same reasoning, he also vacated two other provisions that rely in part on the debt-repayment measure: one that requires institutions seeking to offer a new vocational program to get prior approval from the Education Department, and one that requires institutions to provide data to the department for calculating the debt measures.

The judge allowed to stand another provision that the college association had challenged. That provision, the disclosure rule, requires institutions to disclose to potential students information about a vocational program’s costs, the on-time graduation rate for students who have completed the program, and the placement rate and median loan debt for those students.

Steve Gunderson, president and chief executive officer of the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, which brought the lawsuit, praised the ruling. “We are very pleased to report nearly all of the regulation’s overreaching elements were vacated,” he said in a written statement. He added that the association looks forward “to working with the federal government to prepare more Americans to compete successfully for 21st Century jobs and to move our nation’s economy forward.”

http://chronicle.com/blogs/ticker/j...l-provisions-of-gainful-employment-rule/45125

 

[Dragonfly Jones]

if the US had a drop of morality left they would have banned this crap years ago

all 'for profit schools' (which is technically all colleges and universities in the united states, including Harvard and Yale) should be shut down. People shouldn't go in debt simply for trying to better their lives and get an education


Multi level Marketing schemes should be illegal also, but they aren't

 

[DEAD7]

 

[CHL]

all 'for profit schools' (which is technically all colleges and universities in the united states, including Harvard and Yale) should be shut down. People shouldn't go in debt simply for trying to better their lives and get an education


Multi level Marketing schemes should be illegal also, but they aren't

just wake up now breh