US airlines like Delta and United are so desperate for pilots they are dropping some requirements and considering cutting training hours to get more..

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Not a surprise, all the pilots I’ve met have been old just counting their days until retirement
 

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tldr:

Costs associated with pilot training including classes, flight hours accumulation, and licensing will average around $80k. And most of the top airlines require or strongly prefer a college degree, so altogether a potential pilot is dropping $200k just to get a foot in the door.

But that is just to get a commercial license, they still need 1,500 flight hours before they can pilot for the big airlines like Delta. It'll cost another $130k to attain those flight hours if they paid for it themselves by renting planes, so they usually end up as flight instructors or skydiving pilots to get the required hours.

After all of that, a first year pilot can get hired by a regional airline with a starting pay of....30k.

The big bucks don't come until later.
 
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tldr:

Pilot training to take classes, acquire flight hours, and get the required licenses averages around $80k. And most of the top airlines require or strongly prefer a college degree, so altogether a potential pilot is dropping $200k just to get a foot in the door.

But that is just to get a commercial license, they still need 1,500 flight hours before they can pilot for the big airlines like Delta. It'll cost another $130k to attain those flight hours if they paid for it themselves by renting planes, so they usually end up as flight instructors or skydiving pilots to get the required hours.

After all of that, a first year pilot can get hired by a regional airline with a starting pay of....30k.

The big bucks don't come until later.


That's the best answer of all 3 pages. I personally know from a friend that their parents dropped 150k+ to get his commercial pilot license and that's in Europe. And when you are 150k in debt and your starting pay is around 30k yeah fukk ALLLLLLLA DAT

After a few years they make bank but in the beginning you are struggling and then you have to be able to keep your head in the game when your flying
 

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Guess I won't travel in the future :yeshrug:

When I was a kid, I thought the 2020's would be on some solarpunk, everyone has a jetpack shyt :wow: :francis:
We were robbed. Our whole generation was robbed. I swear to god that we were promised flying cars, robot butlers, and vacation homes in space. Aint got none of that.


I would honestly trade the internet for most of that list....:francis:
 

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That's the best answer of all 3 pages. I personally know from a friend that their parents dropped 150k+ to get his commercial pilot license and that's in Europe. And when you are 150k in debt and your starting pay is around 30k yeah fukk ALLLLLLLA DAT

After a few years they make bank but in the beginning you are struggling and then you have to be able to keep your head in the game when your flying
This is actually similar to the doctor issue. They just double the scale. 300k for bachelors+degree and then your starting pay for all that labor is $60k.
 

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Pilots get paid 6 figures and airlines aren't as profitable as people might assume.

The issue is the high barrier of entry.
Yeah right.
Airlines are still publicly traded companies. Who were bailed out by the government when 9/11 happened.

They want to maintain a better profit margin. That's the end of the debate.
 

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I should look into this. I been had my flying license but it's been some years since I've flown so need to renew it. A lot of these companies were essentially trying to screw the pilots over. I came across people hiding my medical record so I don't get to do my boeing sim test. Deliberate sabotage in the sim test by messing with a small detail you cant tell in a plane you never flown. ( He didn't reset the altimeter from 1013. And I told him. Just didn't double check. And I took the blame. It was my flight.

I came across arrogant interviewer's who had never flown asking you questions like what is proximity in terms of nautical miles. Something we don't think about it flying because there's layers to knowing who's close to you. Directions they are going. Etas, conflicts, we even had our own personal unused channels we'd get on to chat. When I was flying to the maasai mara we even figured out passanger swaps so we didn't have to get in and out of every strip.

Also came across companies that wanted you to pay them to get your hours. Type companies that were meant to pay you but were taking advantage of us since they knew we needed hours.

It was all disappointing. I ended up just doing business and working with family. But I miss flying. Ain't gonna lie. If something lined up for me I think I'd do it.
 

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That's the best answer of all 3 pages. I personally know from a friend that their parents dropped 150k+ to get his commercial pilot license and that's in Europe. And when you are 150k in debt and your starting pay is around 30k yeah fukk ALLLLLLLA DAT

After a few years they make bank but in the beginning you are struggling and then you have to be able to keep your head in the game when your flying

Yeah a bunch of us from flying school not flying anymore. Especially the older ones who had alternative options.
 
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