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you should be asking yourself why we LET them have nukes if their response to aggression is "fukk it, we all die"

is that not the exact same reason the US tried to stop Saddam? why Iran has sanctions?

where's the UN to inspect them and show proof they have nukes? they sent inspectors to Iraq and North Korea to prove they don't have nukes. but crickets for Israel.

all of this bullshyt they've been getting away with is pissing people off now that they're learning about it





You think the US let Russia have nukes? China? What are you even talking about?

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Iran doesn't need the US to let it have nukes. They are working on it currently. They were willing to back off from the nukes for a certain number of years due to Barry O putting the option for them to get their money that was sitting in foreign banks back.

It's always been about cutting a deal with Iran. There has never been any serious discussion about a ground war with Iran.

Israel has nukes to keep it from getting nuked by middle east countries that will inevitably get nukes in the future.

The most telling part of what you said is "it's pissing people off who are just now learning about it."

I don't have serious geopolitical conversations with folks who are just now learning how things go because your limited information that you recently learned is missing a lot of context and history that has happened in the past 80 years. I don't mean any offense but this isn't a fruitful conversation to have with someone who admittedly doesn't understand what's happening due to just now learning about it.
 

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You think the US let Russia have nukes? China? What are you even talking about?

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Iran doesn't need the US to let it have nukes. They are working on it currently. They were willing to back off from the nukes for a certain number of years due to Barry O putting the option for them to get their money that was sitting in foreign banks back.

It's always been about cutting a deal with Iran. There has never been any serious discussion about a ground war with Iran.

Israel has nukes to keep it from getting nuked by middle east countries that will inevitably get nukes in the future.

The most telling part of what you said is "it's pissing people off who are just now learning about it."

I don't have serious geopolitical conversations with folks who are just now learning how things go because your limited information that you recently learned is missing a lot of context and history that has happened in the past 80 years. I don't mean any offense but this isn't a fruitful conversation to have with someone who admittedly doesn't understand what's happening due to just now learning about it.
China was protected by the USSR so of course the US couldn't do anything to stop them. The point I'm making is that if the so-called developed world is working on exonoration, why does an increasingly facist ethnostate like Israel get a pass? It's hypocritical and emblematic of US and western foreign policy.

Iran does need the US to have nukes because if they are caught developing nukes, the US will bomb the shyt out of it with the help of NATO. Obama was the only president to actually sit down and de-escalate. His predecessors installed puppet regimes or assisted Saddam in attacking Iran.

Your reasoning for Israel having nukes does not pass the muster and is naive. Israel, as a so-called sovereign state, is not part of the NTP and has been practicing deliberate ambiguity for decades; the very same practice that lead to the invasion of Iraq under the guise of WMDs. So again, them having nukes to reduce the chances of them getting nuked by countries without nukes now AND back then is preposterous.

Yes, it is pissing people off; that is proven by the millions of people marching and demonstrating. They don't want to be complicit in genocide.

I, however, have been abreast of geopolitics for at least half of my life. I've lived in a multicultural enclave, was taught in university by former diplomats, and work for a quasi-federal organization. Not only do I have the context of the past 75 years of this horrific ethnic cleansing, I can recommend books and other media for further edification. I can't take offense to what you're saying because I'd need to care what you think about my capacity to engage on this topic to.
 

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Israel left to take care of itself would lead to a nuclear holocaust in the middle east because that's the only real way they'd be able to defend themselves from all the middle east nations that want to wipe them off the map.

And nukes in play isn't good for anybody.

And who the fukk gave them the nukes??? :stopitslime: israel got no one to blame bit themselves
 
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