Rell84shots
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Don't need Vince back, but we do need some of his ideals back.No the fukk we don't
Vince McMahon was pricing tickets on family and not maximizing prices." - TKO's Mark Shapiro
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The Amerikkkan Idol
The Amerikkkan Nightmare
Let's be real, the best WWE has been in the last 15-20 years is that period when Vince was forced to step away, but before TKO fully took control of the product.
So, we don't need Vince back, we need TKO to get bored & sell the company.
So, we don't need Vince back, we need TKO to get bored & sell the company.
LastManStanding
Veteran
enjoy the next twelve Saudi WrestleMania's
Silkk
Can't Change My Damn Avi :beli:
We need them to separate shyt. One man booking 3-4 shows a week between Raw, SD, PLEs, AAA, etc.Let's be real, the best WWE has been in the last 15-20 years is that period when Vince was forced to step away, but before TKO fully took control of the product.
So, we don't need Vince back, we need TKO to get bored & sell the company.
Its no way any booker could handle that without getting burnt out. He need to pass some of that shyt off like Vince did with the original brand split.
But he knows that doing that makes him expendable.
Rell84shots
Veteran
Don't do that, Vince was very much responsible for what made the WWE entertaining before he was ultimately ousted. 2021- late 2023 Vince was still the main person in charge of creative, even his 1st exit was fake since he was having Prichard use his ideas. HHH didn't have complete control until September of 2023, and even then it was just HHH piggybacking off of Vince's stories.Let's be real, the best WWE has been in the last 15-20 years is that period when Vince was forced to step away, but before TKO fully took control of the product.
So, we don't need Vince back, we need TKO to get bored & sell the company.
Vic Damone. Jr
Don't support the phonies, support the real
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
Vince wanted to appeal to families because that's how you keep the cycle going. When you are already selling to the Saudis, the longterm doesn't mean much, it's about the short term profits for TKO. If WWE loses fans down the road it ain't gonna be them who has to deal with it
Bring him back? The same nikkas that kicked him out?It wouldn't surprise me if they somehow bring him back. America elected a convicted conman as president and his wife, daughter, and son-in-law are buddy buddy with that conman. It's only a matter of time.
They don't want him back
Ironman
#Knickstape
TKO is the threat and his fault while the influence of Saudi is Vince fault 
The Amerikkkan Idol
The Amerikkkan Nightmare
WWE was not entertaining for most of the last 20 years, bro.
He kept Roman face for years even though it was obvious he was a heel.
The only thing that saved him was that ROMAN stepped away because of COVID & wanted to turn heel as one of the conditions of him coming back.
If it was up to Vince, Roman would still be the "Big Dog" coming out to The Shield music.
There's a reason that as soon as Vince stepped away, everybody from the fans to the wrestlers were happy, ratings went up, & they started packing arenas again.
When Vince briefly came back, everything went to shyt again until the TKO sell.
Dude's been cooked.
Silkk
Can't Change My Damn Avi :beli:
And now....?WWE was not entertaining for most of the last 20 years, bro.
He kept Roman face for years even though it was obvious he was a heel.
The only thing that saved him was that ROMAN stepped away because of COVID & wanted to turn heel as one of the conditions of him coming back.
If it was up to Vince, Roman would still be the "Big Dog" coming out to The Shield music.
There's a reason that as soon as Vince stepped away, everybody from the fans to the wrestlers were happy, ratings went up, & they started packing arenas again.
When Vince briefly came back, everything went to shyt again until the TKO sell.
Dude's been cooked.
Rell84shots
Veteran
That's not true at all, the ratings didn't start to go down until after Mania 40. The WWE was literally under a resurgence starting with Roman turning heel, and putting all the belts on POCs. Vince stepped away but he was still the main booker in creative since he was still the owner. It wasn't until September of 2023 when Ari Emanuel banned Vince from being a part of creative. What you're seeing now is what happens when HHH has complete control.WWE was not entertaining for most of the last 20 years, bro.
He kept Roman face for years even though it was obvious he was a heel.
The only thing that saved him was that ROMAN stepped away because of COVID & wanted to turn heel as one of the conditions of him coming back.
If it was up to Vince, Roman would still be the "Big Dog" coming out to The Shield music.
There's a reason that as soon as Vince stepped away, everybody from the fans to the wrestlers were happy, ratings went up, & they started packing arenas again.
When Vince briefly came back, everything went to shyt again until the TKO sell.
Dude's been cooked.
Racist republican trash sold his family's company to other racist republican trashes.
It is what it is. You either stop supporting them or you keep enabling them to do what they do.
Those wrestlers better hope they get paid what they deserve, cause I know a lot of UFC fighters aren't getting paid shyt and TKO don't give a fukk about them lol.
It is what it is. You either stop supporting them or you keep enabling them to do what they do.
Those wrestlers better hope they get paid what they deserve, cause I know a lot of UFC fighters aren't getting paid shyt and TKO don't give a fukk about them lol.
Vince has done a lot of mistakes over his career. What saved him from a complete disaster was the fact that he'd destroyed rival companies or those companies destroyed themselves (like TNA hiring hoegan and bytchoff).
With that being said, even Vince with him getting out of touch with reality, even he knew to stay away from the Bloodline storyline, not make any drastic dumb decisions and let it play out.
I can't watch this trash anymore but I assume if you give creative control to someone like triple H, it is going to be a boring product just like his entire persona over the wrestling years. Wouldn't be surprised if most of the wrestlers he pushes they are white and have a biker/metal look.
Also TKO don't know shyt about professional wrestling. Some may have assumed that wrestling would adopt some of MMA's realism...but that's an oxymoron, wrestlers aren't beating each other for real like it's UFC.
McMahon family selling the product to them is basically from trash to another trash. All TKO worked with are MMA fighters where formula is very simple: two fighters have a bit of trash talk and they beat each other. And MMA has been on a steady downhill for a while so there you go...one company dragging down both major entertainment products.
Would vince have done things better if he was still with WWE? Probably not, but at the same time they sold the company to those who don't know jack shyt about wrestling. Triple H making decisions is a mediocrity waiting to happen.