We know Kyrie doesn't pass and that Wiggins is an average shooter who struggles creating his shot

[SuburbanPimp]

So you watched two games of his, word?

You're putting entirely too much stock in numbers, even then his stats are right in line with what Freshman post players did in the past. If we had a time machine and could place you back when these guys were freshman, this is what it would sound like -

"He only averaged 10 and 9" - You talking about freshman Duncan
"He only averaged 8 and 6" - You talking about redshirt freshman Hakeem
"He only averaged 8 and 4" - You talking about freshman Robinson
"He only averaged 13 and 7" You talking about Patrick

Yeah, and those guys stayed in school to get better and probably none of them besides Ewing maybe would have been the 1 pick after their freshman season.

Stats don't mean nothing anymore? That's fine, I'm just saying that if he has this polished post game he should be getting more than 11pts per game if guys like Randle who is raw offensively can get 15 a game as a freshman...

And I probably watched 4 Kansas games this season, I never claimed to be expert or anything I'm just saying I wasn't impressed with what I saw from him. Even though Wiggins was kinda overrated to me, I saw glimpses of his potential and what he could do out there

And I keep mentioning Ridley because I had no clue who he was before the Kansas game but yet he was about to have his way and play just as well as Embiid. Ridley a slightly above average college center that hardly anyone knows who played him like that. But yet I'm suppose to believe Embiid is gonna come to the NBA and be more effective than he was in college.

And more than anything I just can't act like a 7 footer having back problems as a freshman isn't a huge red flag. Back problems are worse than knee problems.

 

[Malta]

Yeah, and those guys stayed in school to get better and probably none of them besides Ewing maybe would have been the 1 pick after their freshman season.

Stats don't mean nothing anymore? That's fine, I'm just saying that if he has this polished post game he should be getting more than 11pts per game if guys like Randle who is raw offensively can get 15 a game as a freshman...

And I probably watched 4 Kansas games this season, I never claimed to be expert or anything I'm just saying I wasn't impressed with what I saw from him. Even though Wiggins was kinda overrated to me, I saw glimpses of his potential and what he could do out there

And I keep mentioning Ridley because I had no clue who he was before the Kansas game but yet he was about to have his way and play just as well as Embiid. Ridley a slightly above average college center that hardly anyone knows who played him like that. But yet I'm suppose to believe Embiid is gonna come to the NBA and be more effective than he was in college.

And more than anything I just can't act like a 7 footer having back problems as a freshman isn't a huge red flag. Back problems are worse than knee problems.

In todays NBA, all of those guys would be up for the first pick if they came out, scouts don't put as much stock into college numbers as fans do, which is why Doug McDermott isn't going first. It's all about how you project in the NBA, and the type of player you could turn into.

College stats really don't mean much, the advanced stats maybe, but just raw numbers? Sorry but we seen Michael Beasley and Derrick Williams post some gaudy stats, then they hit the league and are average. They were both selected over centers that are now better pros that either didn't play college ball, or they posted better numbers than.


Andre Drummond is far more effective in the NBA than he was in college, why would it be surprising to see Embiid be better in the pros when there's more spacing and better shooters that he can kick the ball out to? You keep mentioning Ridley when you can look at any pro and probably point out some fringe NBA player that was too much for them in college, for the last time, they played each other to a draw despite Ridley being stronger than him. You're acting like Ridley gave him 30 and 20, they posted almost the same exact stats vs one another.

 

[Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD]

Dwight Howard has had 'back' issues as pro. His career isn't over.

Already mentioned Drummond.

Homie trying to shyt on Embiid while admitting he thinks Wiggins is overrated despite saying he saw "flashes"

Okay

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

 

[The_Third_Man]

Was Jordan a great shooter in his freshman year?