We need President Bernard (or Warren)

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Team bernard Warren slander don't sit well with me. Hillary might be right
 

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stop it Dead.
The pie story is still accurate.
now after wealth is redistributed. we can still get those reparations. and distribute the tax hit on each class proportionately.
No its really not.
Value is something that can be grown to benefit multiple parties.
Currency is literally being printed/created as we speak... how the fixed pie idea remains I do not know.


That said, our government being as incompetent as ever, has completely failed to tax and redistribute effectively.:yeshrug:
 

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Leftist love to start the story in middle and say look at how little he has and look at how much he has, ignoring everything that led up to that... unless it was criminal or unsavory, then and only then will it be mentioned:russ:


:mjcry:We've given up on economic mobility.
 

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Leftist love to start the story in middle and say look at how little he has and look at how much he has, ignoring everything that led up to that... unless it was criminal or unsavory, then and only then will it be mentioned:russ:


:mjcry:We've given up on economic mobility.


If you had any grasp of antitrust litigation since the 70’s you would see that economic mobility has been forcibly taken sans exceptional cases.
 

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No its really not.
Value is something that can be grown to benefit multiple parties.
Currency is literally being printed/created as we speak... how the fixed pie idea remains I do not know.


That said, our government being as incompetent as ever, has completely failed to tax and redistribute effectively.:yeshrug:
the government hasnt failed at it. they havent tried in quite some time. they have intentionally left loop holes to be jumped thru by tax evaders of the highest authority. They have intentionally given trillions of dollars of corporate welfare the past few decades while not giving equal or a fair amt to the actual citizens in need.

Here's the truth. the moment you get RICH, you no longer need the governments help with anything outside of security(police/army/court system, Fire dept just in case your spot catches on fire.) you dont need a govvy handout to create a new business. you already make enough profit from your current venture(s) to put the money up to open up another shop and add a few more employees. and if you dont, you dont need to be expanding. its that simple. you dont need an incentive outside of the basic idea of opening up another business to make more money.

guess who does need the government's financial help? regular individuals that are not rich.
 

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Team bernard Warren slander don't sit well with me. Hillary might be right
if you think hilary is right. then we know you're completely wrong. just like her team was in 16.

lol at warren slander. when does exposing a person for who they really are with their own words and deeds = slander?
If thats too hot in the kitchen for you. warren surely cant run against that idiot in the white house that will do and say anything he can think of. like real slander. half trues, whole lies, etc. but thats the problem, for some odd reason yall think voting for a presidential candidate is a game of my team vs your team. yall do not want YOUR team vetted properly. yall want to skate to the victory. which would be fine if this were a reality show. but it aint. its real life. you cant get to be my president unless i know who you really are and what you're really about. if i choose you after knowing what you're all about. so be it.
 

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are you not a warren fan? have you not been paying attention? Google it, youtube it. it aint hard.
I am a Warren fan, which is why I'm confused at your post. Warren has only put out two policies related to M4A, one was a transition plan and the other was a funding plan, so I'm not sure what you're referring to when you talk about her "original bernie M4A policy".
 

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I am a Warren fan, which is why I'm confused at your post. Warren has only put out two policies related to M4A, one was a transition plan and the other was a funding plan, so I'm not sure what you're referring to when you talk about her "original bernie M4A policy".
if you're a warren fan. you know what i'm talking about. if you're one of those fans that only see the positive in your candidate then you may have intentionally covered your eyes in that regard. before warren ever dropped her plan, who's plan was she riding with?
when the reporters finally started pushing up on her for real about M4A, what was her responses?
Why did her poll numbers start to drop like crazy(when she was hot) after said responses?

^^has this jogged your memory Warren Fan?
 

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if you're a warren fan. you know what i'm talking about. if you're one of those fans that only see the positive in your candidate then you may have intentionally covered your eyes in that regard. before warren ever dropped her plan, who's plan was she riding with?
Before Warren dropped her M4A funding and transition plan, she wasn't riding with anyone's plan, because no one had a complete M4A plan with funding and transition. She said "I'm with Bernie" on supporting M4A as her optimal healthcare goal, but no candidate had put out a holistic plan until she did. She's still the only one with one.

when the reporters finally started pushing up on her for real about M4A, what was her responses?
Her response was to produce the first, and still only, M4A funding plan, and the only detailed M4A transition plan. Bernie literally said, "I don't believe I have to release a funding plan yet." I personally find it interesting that all of the other nominees are allowed to skirt by on the massive holes in their healthcare plans but Warren was dragged to hell and back. No other candidate has faced as many incoming attacks as she did in that October debate.

Why did her poll numbers start to drop like crazy(when she was hot) after said responses?
This will be the central question when we look back at her campaign, but from what I can tell, she took a hit because she was held to a higher standard than anyone else due to her branding as the intelligent/plans candidate. Also, the current political atmosphere is hyper-polarized and emotionally charged, so I don't think there's much voter appetite for being told how the magic trick is done, people prefer to just be wowed by the trick. By releasing an actual detailed M4A plan, she upset her left flank by admitting the limitations of reality and saying we can't get there in one leap, and she pissed off her right flank by proving she wasn't bullshytting about her M4A support. The left went to Bernie and the right went to Pete.
 

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the government hasnt failed at it. they havent tried in quite some time. they have intentionally left loop holes to be jumped thru by tax evaders of the highest authority. They have intentionally given trillions of dollars of corporate welfare the past few decades while not giving equal or a fair amt to the actual citizens in need.

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