bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Like I said,nothing you said negated my stance AT ALL.
WELL DAMN i didn't know JUSTIN COMBS PUBLISHING was still eating off of JADAKISS SOLO ALBUMS
- Thread starter KENNY DA COOKER
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'Lando
"My team in the marine-blue, Six Coupe"
days later and this back and forth is still goin 
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
lmao i dont think it ever will stop It's the battle of truth (me) vs emotions (that wack nikka)
The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
you have to be a grade A lawyer to "catch" how long you have to pay a nikka money???I just finished listening to the whole debate, the last 5 minutes made me take everything back, the contract didn't say for life, there's a fulfillment clause that basically made it a permanent loophole. You'd have to be a grade A lawyer to catch that sh*t. Yo man, I feel the Lox, Puff is an evil dude for that, but at the same time, I wouldn't be on the radio threatening nikkaz, but yeah, I most definitely understand where they're coming from, that's f*cked up to trick some young nikkaz who don't know better like that. Money, Power, and Respect is one of the top 50 albums of all time in my opinion, it will be selling forever, not to mention samples, no way Puff givin' that up without a fight. D*mn the game is crazy
that's like getting a car loan and having no idea how many years you have to pay it back
shyt was for 5 albums... is it puff's fault he let them go in 1998 and it's 2015 and they still haven't dropped 5 albums?? and no lawyer asked "hey how long are you gonna own the publishing" when you had SEVEN lawyers
they don't know the music business and in all that time, they haven't sat down and learned it still.. even angie had no clue what her publishing deal was or looked like
that's THEIR fault... lets be honest... most of these people, rookie or vet, are too busy getting money, smoking weed, drinking, going to the next party, meeting, studio session.... to really be learning about the business and paying close attention
BUT THEY NEED TO... those that take the time, make out like millionaires with several successful businesses and labels, in the industry... those that don't... have fun till the money runs out, and then end up crying years after the fact, about how they didn't make shyt
for every 20 hammers there's a jay-z... one sold and made more off music, but never learned the business and how to manage it... the other sold what he sold but always made sure the contracts were right, went for ownership, and now runs other artists/athletes and teaches them the same... instead of just being a shark and fukking them without a lesson
'Lando
"My team in the marine-blue, Six Coupe"
exactly who are you referring to here?
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The Devil's Advocate
Call me Dad
hammer...
he sold way more records than jay.. but squandered all his money away.. never learning what to do with it, how to run the music business to put some of those 200 employees on a record, and ended up not getting more money, off all his hits and records
where someone like jay, refused to even sign deals, and held out until he could get ownership.. then made sure to charge and overcharge every label for his services.. on the way to now showing other artists and athletes how to not get fukked.. .when he could be just another snake nikka.... say what you want.. i have never ever heard of jay-z owing a nikka or fukking them out some deal
jada: no security guard can stop a refrigerator..
angie: how much money we talking?
styles: we talking--we--
jada: off a sky scraper
styles:
jada: stainless steel, the double door joints.
and of all the things jada coulda hit puff with why a refrigerator off a skyscraper?
why is jada on a rooftop of a skyscraper?
why is there a fridge up there with him?
How can he time the drop of the fridge with puff leaving the building?
WHY?
jay-z was snaking his artists breh.
and hammer did indeed put some of his employees out on record, as well as others. he and his brother had like 3 labels and a management company(s). and they had some big acts down with them. they seem to have been disliked in the industry. that explains why all the extra shade was thrown on hammer's legacy.
hammer's problem was that he tried to save the world and didnt handle his money right.
ivailoivailoto
Rookie
@Wacky D Bruh,this dude is right,he's been posting facts for 15 pages straight,I'm a Big Lox fan,but facts are facts.
And someone back in the thread said in years the lox will have a legacy simmilar to Kool G Rap.Imo,never in a million years will they have such a legacy.They didn't revolutionize the game as much as G did.And they're street rappers,talking the "slick gangsta stuff,which alot of other people do.With that being said I mess with the LOX heavy,but they're way overrated,always throwing out the word lyrical themselves.Listen to their song with slaughterhouse Put some money on it.3 of 4 members of SH wash them with the quickness.
And someone back in the thread said in years the lox will have a legacy simmilar to Kool G Rap.Imo,never in a million years will they have such a legacy.They didn't revolutionize the game as much as G did.And they're street rappers,talking the "slick gangsta stuff,which alot of other people do.With that being said I mess with the LOX heavy,but they're way overrated,always throwing out the word lyrical themselves.Listen to their song with slaughterhouse Put some money on it.3 of 4 members of SH wash them with the quickness.
im not sure who first mentioned it in the thread, but im the one that started the kool g. rap comparison on this board period. and its true.
secondly, the guy youre cosigning was drawing blanks when kool g. rap's name was mentioned a couple months ago.
and just like him, youre not fully qualified for this topic. the fact that youre bringing up slaughterhouse strengthens my assumption.they dont do "slick gangsta stuff which alot of other people do". THEYRE THE ONES WHO STARTED THAT CHIT!!!!! so yes, they are indeed to late '90s & 2000s rap what kool g. rap was to the late '80s - early/mid '90s. and they had a bigger run with much more success than kool g.rap as well.
the only reason kool g. rap is so much more heralded on th net is because g.rap picked up the backpack & internet crowds in later years via the rawkus deal. without that, he doesnt get the extra luv he receives on these boards. most of yall would barely(if ever) acknowledge him.
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ivailoivailoto
Rookie
So you mean to tell me slaughterhouse aren't nice(save for Joe Budden,I'm not oppionionated on him)!?Bruh,bar for bar any of the 3 SH members are mad nicer than LOX.
THEYRE THE ONES WHO STARTED THAT CHIT!!!!!
you may be on to something here,but weren't Lord Finesse and Big L on some simillar ish(genuine question)?
And I didn;t even know G Rap was on rawkus,I've listened to his album w DJ Polo and 4.5.6 and The Symphony.
But still I think LOX were wanted to blow up big,but couldn't and being not so appealing to the mainstream worked better for them on some Nas hate me now type of ish.I think that was the only think the 2012 dude was trying to say ;d
THEYRE THE ONES WHO STARTED THAT CHIT!!!!!
you may be on to something here,but weren't Lord Finesse and Big L on some simillar ish(genuine question)?
And I didn;t even know G Rap was on rawkus,I've listened to his album w DJ Polo and 4.5.6 and The Symphony.
But still I think LOX were wanted to blow up big,but couldn't and being not so appealing to the mainstream worked better for them on some Nas hate me now type of ish.I think that was the only think the 2012 dude was trying to say ;d
1.) you dont get it. lets just leave it alone. it was a tasteful joke.
2.) dog, do you have any clue how many rappers the lox fathered and how many people switched their styles up after the lox came on the scene?
3.) nah. theres a similarity or two but finesse & big l were on some other chit for the most part. i'll give you finesse being the 1st extra punchy rapper tho. jada came out of that mold. other than that tho, they were different stylistically. shoot, big l's man mason betha switched his style up and became influenced by the lox.
4.) but what prompted you to go back and listen to those kool g.rap records?
5.) so youre agreeing with him based off an assumption? cuz overall, thats not what he was trying to say.
"you mad that i signed to the roc, cuz i listened to the lox? - beanie sigel
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ivailoivailoto
Rookie
Props for answering in a respectful fashion,appreciate it.
You convinced me on LOX being innovative tho,I genuinely can;t think of a pre 1997 rapper that spits like them,except for the two I mentioned.I agree on the Mase ish as well,but can you name some more,being that you said there were alot them that switched up their style 360 due to the LOX' style?Also I think Jada and Styles started the tag team verse ish,not really a credible statement though,I admit I'm a young'n.
But ma mans,you still haven't told me,why you think LOX are better than SH?I think the LOX,save for a few classics under their belt(We Gon'Make it,Jada's Why,Styles'Good Times and my life and a few more)they're best known for Bars,as are 3/4 of SH to me,when I heard that song,Styles and Jada's flows were mad stale in comparison to the other dudes,Sheek did his thing though,their bars were hotter too.
And as far as the Kool G thing goes,I was listening to some DJ Premier produced ish(Preemo stan) and I saw the Ill Street Blues joint and I was impressed to say the least.The LOX as a whole won't have such a legacy for me.Maybe Styles.Jada hopping on those features is what's going to stop him.Styles maybe,but only the independent lane ish that you mentioned about.That's only my oppinion tho.
Edit:From your stance,what did the 2012 dude want to say,getting out of his way for a number of pages to post ish?
You convinced me on LOX being innovative tho,I genuinely can;t think of a pre 1997 rapper that spits like them,except for the two I mentioned.I agree on the Mase ish as well,but can you name some more,being that you said there were alot them that switched up their style 360 due to the LOX' style?Also I think Jada and Styles started the tag team verse ish,not really a credible statement though,I admit I'm a young'n.
But ma mans,you still haven't told me,why you think LOX are better than SH?I think the LOX,save for a few classics under their belt(We Gon'Make it,Jada's Why,Styles'Good Times and my life and a few more)they're best known for Bars,as are 3/4 of SH to me,when I heard that song,Styles and Jada's flows were mad stale in comparison to the other dudes,Sheek did his thing though,their bars were hotter too.
And as far as the Kool G thing goes,I was listening to some DJ Premier produced ish(Preemo stan) and I saw the Ill Street Blues joint and I was impressed to say the least.The LOX as a whole won't have such a legacy for me.Maybe Styles.Jada hopping on those features is what's going to stop him.Styles maybe,but only the independent lane ish that you mentioned about.That's only my oppinion tho.
Edit:From your stance,what did the 2012 dude want to say,getting out of his way for a number of pages to post ish?
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Who you speaking on? If it's me just stop,u lost alreadyim not sure who first mentioned it in the thread, but im the one that started the kool g. rap comparison on this board period. and its true.
secondly, the guy youre cosigning was drawing blanks when kool g. rap's name was mentioned a couple months ago.
they dont do "slick gangsta stuff which alot of other people do". THEYRE THE ONES WHO STARTED THAT CHIT!!!!! so yes, they are indeed to late '90s & 2000s rap what kool g. rap was to the late '80s - early/mid '90s. and they had a bigger run with much more success than kool g.rap as well.
the only reason kool g. rap is so much more heralded on th net is because g.rap picked up the backpack & internet crowds in later years via the rawkus deal. without that, he doesnt get the extra luv he receives on these boards. most of yall would barely(if ever) acknowledge him.