Westbrook : Most overrated modern PG?

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My thing is even if he is stat padding a triple double how many nikkas in the NBA can actually do that? Realistically, can somebody truthfully answer me that? Alot of these 1st, 2nd, and 3rd tier players have performance incentives in their contracts and can barely reach them( Paul George looking at you), but y'all complain about Westbrook, just be fans and enjoy the game....
 

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Bron stan @The Dankster in here dapping every post calling Russ a stat padder yet will straight up write dissertations defending Bron when this nicca is godfather of stat padding...

I haven't dapped a post on this thread in over two days, and I haven't written a long post on Lebron in longer than that. :why:

You transparent as hell, I embarrassed you with receipts on the Sabonis thing and the Utah thing, you had no comeback there so you tried to move over here and come at me with some contentless bullshyt. :heh:

Your screen name way too accurate. :russ:
 
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I haven't dapped a post on this thread in over two days, and I haven't written a long post on Lebron in longer than that. :why:

You transparent as hell, I embarrassed you with receipts on the Sabonis thing and the Utah thing, you had no comeback there so you tried to move over here and come at me with some contentless bullshyt. :heh:

Your screen name way too accurate. :russ:
You typed up a speculative post about Sabonis that was roundly laughed at aside from the few who dapped you :francis:

You shouldn't be proud of that shyt...:pachaha:

You took a flippant comment I made about the Jazz running the East just to drive home how awful the conference is and wrote another dissertation for the sole purpose of propping up Lebron.

Your Sabonis post attempting to "what if" Jordan's legacy into an alternate universe where Portland is a dynasty and your vigorous defense of the Eastern Conference is the only shyt transparent here.

You are the quintessential Bron stan.
 

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You took a flippant comment I made about the Jazz running the East just to drive home how awful the conference is and wrote another dissertation for the sole purpose of propping up Lebron.
You said the Jazz ran the East, I pointed out to you they 14-16 against the East and just lost to the hobbled Celts and the Hawks. That's all it took. You LOST. :russ:

And I didn't mention Lebron once. But clearly he was on your mind if you thought that exchange was about Lebron. A quick look at your history shows that at least this week, you be talking about Lebron more than I do. :pachaha:






You typed up a speculative post about Sabonis that was roundly laughed at aside from the few who dapped you :francis:

You shouldn't be proud of that shyt...
It was a speculative thread, speculation was the OP's whole question. :snoop:

The few that dapped me? You should have learned about receipts by now the way I been owning you the last couple days. :ohlawd:

I got 34 daps from my first comment alone, 26 from the second one, even the Bulls fan who put in the OP was giving me cred. :bryan:

You put in work dapping every damn person who tried to come back at me and still couldn't get any of them anywhere close to my support. :umad:

Not to mention I quoted dozens of NBA players and coaches agreeing with me. You a damn liar. :camby:

Sabonis was another bullet we dodged :whew:

Sometimes the stars and planets gotta be aligned just right to have everything going for you :youngsabo:
Pretty much this, great post man

:ohhh: Sabonis was that dude..... damn son, i never knew
Why is Arvydas not someone who could've changed the outcome of at least the '92 Finals? Even with what we have seen of him in the NBA, as a hobbled as fukk 30+ year old 30 lbs heavier than his prime weight, he was still a high impact player for the Blazers. Think it's safe to say he would've been All-NBA caliber had he been able to come over in his early twenties and get the rehab he needed on his achilles and whatever else.
The Pistons only had enough to win two in a row after everything else they went through including IT ankle don't forget they had to get rid of Dantley to win it

Plus Sabo

We will never know:wow:
For whatever reason, the only great center who had a quality team around him in that time was Shaq and then Hakeem in 1995 and 1997 (yeah I know they won in 1994 and all, but their opponents second best player was John starks :hhh: ), which was really the last 2-3 years where Hakeem was good enough to be the best player on a champion :manny:. Patrick was out there trying to win with John starks and Charles Smith and I don’t recall Robinson having much more help before Duncan arrived in 1997 :francis:.
I'm glad this thread turned into a "School youngins on Arvydas". People here really are too young to comprehend how powerful that man was on the court :ohhh:

Yes a prime Arvydas would've made that portland team a dynasty :wow:

i'm just glad that he came late in his career for the sake of my Bulls team :whew:

Thanks for this common sense posting and clarity.
This isn’t a dig at Michael. Merely a realistic accounting of what happened in those 90s series.
Sabonis basically single handedly responsible for the Dream Team in 1992

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I don't think you understand how good he was
some of y'all are legit retarded u don't think switching out Duckworth old ass for sabonis wouldn't had made any difference u don't understand basketball. That's why gsw lost in 7 with bum ass Harrison Barnes but with kd they damn near swept the Cavs. Exchanging a nikka that sucks for an all nba talent makes a huge difference. Not to say mj wouldn't have 6 rings but the blazer and bulls would have been a dope was rivalry
Portland has the most "what if?s" than any team in NBA History. From their 1978 team , which was on record pace before Walton got hurt :wow:

To Sabonis entering the league late , instead of after the 1988 Olympics..

Those late 80s, early 90s teams had everything BUT a prime center. Duckworth was ok at best , but Sabonis replacing him at the 5 would've made Portland unstoppable. No one couldn't fukk with them. Not the Pistons, Lakers or the Bulls. Their only weakness would've been staying healthy for there were no egos on those teams either.
Goddamn , Sabonis was like a fukking 7’3 Larry Bird with way more athleticism & defensive ability :ohhh: I could imagine that dude dominating in the mid-late 80’s because he was far from soft. He would bully cats in the lane :what:

Receipts, brother. You want me to go ahead and quote all the NBA players who went up against Sabonis and all the coaches who scouted him too? :pacspit:




You are the quintessential Bron stan.

What is wrong with you? :heh:

NONE of what we were talking about was about Bron. I didn't mention Bron once. :dahell:

We were talking about Utah in one conversation and Sabonis in the other, now you've brought up the fact I like Bron three times cause you can't hang in an NBA conversation without lying. :heh:
 
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I haven't dapped a post on this thread in over two days, and I haven't written a long post on Lebron in longer than that. :why:

You transparent as hell, I embarrassed you with receipts on the Sabonis thing and the Utah thing, you had no comeback there so you tried to move over here and come at me with some contentless bullshyt. :heh:

Your screen name way too accurate. :russ:
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Lmaoook @ y’all nikkas who saying the nikka who leads the league in assist aint a legit pont guard :mjlol:

He is not a skilled facilitator. His passing ability is not the same as cp3 or bron. He cant probe the defense and pick it apart.

That is the problem. His coaches give him too much freedom when that isnt his game. He needs structure. He needs a coach like popovich. He could be a high octane tony Parker.
 

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My thing is even if he is stat padding a triple double how many nikkas in the NBA can actually do that? Realistically, can somebody truthfully answer me that? Alot of these 1st, 2nd, and 3rd tier players have performance incentives in their contracts and can barely reach them( Paul George looking at you), but y'all complain about Westbrook, just be fans and enjoy the game....

What’s GS record when Draymond green post a triple double? I don’t even think they every lost a game when he post one .. Westbrook on the other hand chases those stats and it cost his team games.. He has to log 40 rebs in 3 games to avg a triple double for the season yet he’s one more loss away from being knocked down to 8th or 9th in the western conf standings or just missing the playoffs all together
 

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People are having buyers remorse for giving him the mvp last year because of saying triple doubles.
 

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OKC will be eliminated in the first round while Houston makes it to conference finals with GSW. They'll lose to GSW but they will make it to conference finals. Then paul george will go to the lakers or some other team, Carmelo will continue to deteriorate and OKC will continue to regress but hey Westbrook averaging another triple double tho!!
:whew::whew::whew:
 

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My thing is even if he is stat padding a triple double how many nikkas in the NBA can actually do that? Realistically, can somebody truthfully answer me that? Alot of these 1st, 2nd, and 3rd tier players have performance incentives in their contracts and can barely reach them( Paul George looking at you), but y'all complain about Westbrook, just be fans and enjoy the game....

I agree with you that it's not easy to do. AND Russ has the make-up/energy to do such a thing. He never gets tired and goes 100% all game. The thing about him is that his "triple- doubles" don't really help his team and fukk up their overall play. He doesn't make his teammates better. I like Russ, but it became aggravating when people started calling him a PG and one of the best PG's ever. He kills the PG position and doesn't even have the play like a PG. Shyt, most of his assists simple and really no thought into running an offense. For the PG's of his time I'd take CP3, Steph, Harden (yes he's a PG), and Kyrie (he still has a lot to learn at the position) before him.
 
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