What can Democrats do about their poor social media presence?

[acri1]

Not sure if it's a popular opinion or not, but IMO one of the biggest reasons Democrats struggle is that it come to social media, the right absolutely dominates. You go on almost any platform (Facebook, Reddit, wherever) and it's dominated by racist memes, anti-SJW complaining, etc.

I'm not too sure why this is considering Dem voters are younger on average. Zuckerberg? Not enough focus on social media in general from party leadership? Lack of younger people put in positions to help?


But in any case...does HL agree that this is an issue? And if so what can be done?

 

[AnonymityX1000]

It's a major issue. Hire consultants with expertise in social network marketing. Fire who you been working with for the past couple of decades.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Put AOC in charge

 

[Loose]

Hire social media experts full time and go on the offense instead of defense even if that means lying/slandering. Take the kid gloves off

 

[BillBanneker]

Not sure if it's a popular opinion or not, but IMO one of the biggest reasons Democrats struggle is that it come to social media, the right absolutely dominates. You go on almost any platform (Facebook, Reddit, wherever) and it's dominated by racist memes, anti-SJW complaining, etc.

I'm not too sure why this is considering Dem voters are younger on average. Zuckerberg? Not enough focus on social media in general from party leadership? Lack of younger people put in positions to help?


But in any case...does HL agree that this is an issue? And if so what can be done?

I think the right wing (not necessarily the gop), is just better funded and understands the power of it (they also have a much clearer narrative to push). Dem and dem donors seem more-so attached to individuals and specific races than spreading general ideas and dogma that the right likes to.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

It's crazy because Dean and Obama pioneered internet politicking. How did they give up the game? The dems are just soft in general and loath to attack their opponents.

I also believe the hate filled insurgent narrative of the right makes them seem bigger than they are.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

It's crazy because Dean and Obama pioneered internet politicking. How did they give up the game? The dems are just soft in general and loath to attack their opponents.

I also believe the hate filled insurgent narrative of the right makes them seem bigger than they are.

They were doing Cambridge Analytica type stuff which has fallen out of vogue and demonized by the Dems.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

i don't know why yall think that's the answer. the dem tent with it's various ID groups and constituents who lean more toward independent thinking or outright contrarianism aren't going to be as easily swayed by a few popular talking heads. you got too many different types of people to reach as opposed to brainwashing the racist and dumb on the right (the old guard, fiscal conservative GOPers don't need media to get on code, they use it to keep their poor constituents in their camp)

 

[AnonymityX1000]

i don't know why yall think that's the answer. the dem tent with it's various ID groups and constituents who lean more toward independent thinking or outright contrarianism aren't going to be as easily swayed by a few popular talking heads. you got too many different types of people to reach as opposed to brainwashing the racist and dumb on the right (the old guard, fiscal conservative GOPers don't need media to get on code, they use it to keep their poor constituents in their camp)

That was Obama's bread and butter and it worked.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

That was Obama's bread and butter and it worked.

1. we've established that people need to stop benchmarking obama as the norm
2. that was in the early days of SM, before it became the fragmented vortex that it is

 

[AnonymityX1000]

1. we've established that people need to stop benchmarking obama as the norm
2. that was in the early days of SM, before it became the fragmented vortex that it is

We? I don't think I was included in that agreement.
You said it had to do with, "ID groups and constituents who lean more toward independent thinking or outright contrarianism". Were only one type of Dem using social media in the beginning or are you changing your argument?

 

[FAH1223]

Here's an idea

Just blatantly lie and make shid up. Scaremonger.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

We? I don't think I was included in that agreement.
You said it had to do with, "ID groups and constituents who lean more toward independent thinking or outright contrarianism". Were only one type of Dem using social media in the beginning or are you changing your argument?

you're really being obtuse here

the number of people on twitter in 08 - 6M, 2020 - 330M monthly active users (WW #'s, not just US)
percent of US adults using FB in 08 - 21%, 2019 - 79%

so a once in a lifetime candidate using a nascent SM to engage a much smaller number of people is easily repeatable? the same SM most people bemoan for how toxic it's become, how many echo chambers and enclaves of radicalization it creates, how it normalizes niche behaviors through specialized communities - this is the same medium in which you're supposed to push a mass message to groups who are more resistant to mass messaging? ok...

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

create a bunch of fake accounts pretending to be republican constituents turning on the party.

"i'm a straight white guy and i can honestly say obama did more for me than trump"
"i voted republican all my life. not anymore until they pass a stimulus and start giving white working class voters tangibles!"

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

you're really being obtuse here

the number of people on twitter in 08 - 6M, 2020 - 330M monthly active users (WW #'s, not just US)
percent of US adults using FB in 08 - 21%, 2019 - 79%

so a once in a lifetime candidate using a nascent SM to engage a much smaller number of people is easily repeatable? the same SM most people bemoan for how toxic it's become, how many echo chambers and enclaves of radicalization it creates, how it normalizes niche behaviors through specialized communities - this is the same medium in which you're supposed to push a mass message to groups who are more resistant to mass messaging? ok...

obamas campaign was successful online in general, not just on social media. in fact i think they called obama the "internet president" and trump the "social media" president. back then you didn't really need a specific social media strategy because social media reflected the internet pretty closely, and the internet was really liberal back then

republicans learned from the obama campaign and just started outsourcing all that shyt to other groups like cambridge analytica.