What if Hillary picked Cory booker as VP?

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I can understand the logic, although this is a very defeatist mindset.

The blacks coalesced around Bernie with other minorities and blue collar whites, Bernie would win the election hands down.

The lack of a black vote is what is killing Bernie, maybe its because he didn't pay his dues or finance campaigns, I don't know
 

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I can understand the logic, although this is a very defeatist mindset.

The blacks coalesced around Bernie with other minorities and blue collar whites, Bernie would win the election hands down.

The lack of a black vote is what is killing Bernie, maybe its because he didn't pay his dues or finance campaigns, I don't know
They'd rally behind Bernie. He just has to win the primary first. A contrast btw Trump and Bernie favors Bernie. In an anti-insider, anti-establishment against same old shyt, scare scare sexist worst female candidate identity politics Clinton polling fukkery static election; the mood of the voter swings to Trump.

He's given millions to them, and likely has a counter for each Clinton attack, plus all the dirt is getting dished in the primaries anyway. Trump needs to let them dump it on him in the primaries, now that the others have no shot. Boogergate has likely ended Cruz, and Kasich's chance is coming, but I doubt it, being too far back.
 

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I don't understand this post really. Nothing against you, but FL is the definition of a swing state. Obama won it by more in 2008. I call it a bellwether state. It's pretty much a reflection of the mood of the rest of the country to some extent. I see it now drifting red. If Blacks, who were wildly enthusiastic about Obama in 2008 could only get it by 2% over McCain, Hillary has no shot in hell.

Sanders could likely get disaffected voters who don't want to be seen as racists, has no more faith in the establishment after dealing with Rick Scott, or just feel a new direction is needed. Hillary is not going to draw those people, and will lose Black enthusiasm in all areas too. She has little shot, as people are going to get fires up to beat Trump, but that's not going to really draw as many people as a promise of a brighter future would. It's not a change election for Hillary.

Polling spots have either been closed or moved, nationwide, for a while now, despite demographic shifts. Our voting patterns hasn't really changed that much. You may can contribute 2008 lines to people going nuts for Obama, but 2012 was just normal. You get lines, because there are fewer places to vote.

Bottom line: Hillary has no safe places outside of New York, Massachusetts, California, Washington State, Delaware, and Vermont imho.
Even if you take out the enthusiasm of blacks in the South, which I think you are wrong, due to her getting higher margins now than Obama before. John McCain got 45% of the Hispanic vote in Florida in 2008, Trump is not going to go near those numbers.
 

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I can understand the logic, although this is a very defeatist mindset.

The blacks coalesced around Bernie with other minorities and blue collar whites, Bernie would win the election hands down.

The lack of a black vote is what is killing Bernie, maybe its because he didn't pay his dues or finance campaigns, I don't know
I've already explained this to you.

Bernie:

1. was an independent until 6 months ago

2. ran too late in the campaign season. HRC was already ready to go. Bernie was fukking around not committing.

3. Had literally no familiarity with any non-uber liberal/new england/alternative media person.

Above and beyond his policies, are several developmental flaws in his sheer access that fukked him.

He's still trying to gain "familiarity" with candidates.

He should have already been known by voters...and he's not.
 

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Even if you take out the enthusiasm of blacks in the South, which I think you are wrong, due to her getting higher margins now than Obama before. John McCain got 45% of the Hispanic vote in Florida in 2008, Trump is not going to go near those numbers.
Nobody knew about Obama in 2008, and Hillary was a household name that split the vote. There's no Black candidate to split. So what are the totals comparison between Hillary/Obama then, and just Hillary now? I would bet, since it was a major change election, that Blacks voting in 2008 was higher. Overall Democratic mood is lower anyway. I don't see Black riding for Hillary, unless the Klan is involved for Trump, sorry.

I do see every Tom, dikk, and Sally gunning to vote for the GOP though.
 
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