What Is The First Rap Song To Reference Killing Or Murder?

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    What is the first rap song to reference killing or murder?

    I already posed this question on another rap message board.

    Thank you to a member named Hammer Time who found the Ice T reference.

    So far we have the murder reference:
    Ice T - 6 in da morning - 1986

    "Deuced it to the Bronx to rest our heads
    Where a shoot-out jumped off, nine people lay dead
    It sounded like it happened with a Mac-10 blast
    But it was 6 in the morning, we didn't wake up to ask" - Ice T

    And blatant "I'm gonna kill you"
    Ice Cube - Straight Outta Compton - August 8, 1988
    "When I'm called off, I got a sawed-off
    Squeeze the trigger and bodies are hauled off" - Ice Cube on Straight outta Compton -

    Can anyone find anything earlier than 1986?

    I'm thinking it may be a Schooly D reference from 1986 or earlier.

    I was thinking Grandmaster Flash's The Message (1982) - cause he mentions stick up kids - but that can just allude to Robbery.
     
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    Your welcome
     
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    Thank you Drexler. I did mention Schooly but didn't look up the lyrics. You got it.

    "Put my pistol up against his head
    And said, "You sucker-ass nikka I should shoot you dead"
    A thought ran across my educated mind
    Said, man, Schoolly D ain't doing no time" - Schooly D PSK - 1985


    And that's a blatant reference. Anything earlier than this?
     
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    Not sure but I'll see what I can find!
     
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    The Message ends in the protagonist committing suicide in jail
     
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    They pushed that girl in front of the train, man :mjcry:
     
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    Which girl which track?
     
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    i was boutta say it's gotta be a schoolly d song
     
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    Blowfly - Rap Dirty

    He ran over crackas with his big rig
     
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    Amazing! Thank you judgement just read the lyrics they're great. It's like intense and racists get cool with each other for a sec then all hell breaks lose again!

    Blowfly - Rap Dirty - 1980

    Anything earlier than that?
    I doubt it. It's considered as one of rap's first explicit tracks.

    In a sense it's comedic. NWA I think camebthe most serious with it. Them or Ice T.

    Wild how both Ice T and Ice Cube are two of the most succesful long term rappers of all time!
     
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    earlier than '80? i dunno man because then we're talking mostly pre-wax, cassette tape only era right there

    but i highly doubt coke la rock, eddie cheeba, funky four plus one, cold crush and busy bee ever talked murder shyt

    with respect to blowfly i do believe this goes to schooly d bro, goddamn PSK still goes hard to me
     
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    First gangsta rap album:wow:

    Philly Bois run this shyt:wow:
     
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    PSK is the first gangsta rap. Hands down

    Theres tons of murder talk in blues songs going back to the 40s:demonic:
     
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    I would say Stack O Lee but that predates Hip Hop, Ima go with Psk. I'm sure there were some joints before it. But like someone posted above they'd probably be hard to find.
     
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