What is up with this "SJW" thing? It's become beyond annoying.

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For the last couple years, it seems like you can barely go on Youtube or the Internet in general without some clown whining about so-called SJWs for no reason. As far as I can tell it's become a catchall term for basically anything focusing on minorities or women.

So where did this come from? Is it a gamergate thing? Some sort of overreaction to demographic change? Something right-wing trolls brought into the mainstream?


I'm hoping it's just a trend because it's gotten really tiresome in the Trump era.
 

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For the last couple years, it seems like you can barely go on Youtube or the Internet in general without some clown whining about so-called SJWs for no reason. As far as I can tell it's become a catchall term for basically anything focusing on minorities or women.

So where did this come from? Is it a gamergate thing? Some sort of overreaction to demographic change? Something right-wing trolls brought into the mainstream?


I'm hoping it's just a trend because it's gotten really tiresome in the Trump era.
It’s a way to silence people that express care for another group of people
 
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Origins in Gamergate, which if you follow the history of these internet alt-right clowns, Gamergate is where they mostly spawned from (see what I did there?)

But anyway, Gamergate, Red-Pill MRA, Southern/Confederate apologists, and Nazis all forged together like an online deplorable Voltron, and "SJW" is just part of their vernacular when attacking or defaming anything contrary to their fukked up racist or sexist ideologies.
 

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It's an alt-right thing.

Its why I find it disturbing when I see it used on this forum by posters who claim to be a minority.
It can be taken too far tho. When we got women talking about their agency being taken away because someone disagreed with them. Or being labeled sexist because you support a male
candidate over a female. Or talking about trans rights a lot when their are less than 100K of them in the country.
 

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It can be taken too far tho. When we got women talking about their agency being taken away because someone disagreed with them. Or being labeled sexist because you support a male
candidate over a female. Or talking about trans rights a lot when their are less than 100K of them in the country.
You can disagree against any of those things without using the same insult that the far right uses.
 

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You can disagree against any of those things without using the same insult that the far right uses.
Why does the origin matter if it encapsulates the idea you are trying to convey?
Do you use the N bomb? Do you think something negative about everyone who does knowing the origin?
 

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Why does the origin matter if it encapsulates the idea you are trying to convey?
Do you use the N bomb? Do you think something negative about everyone who does knowing the origin?
terrible false equivalency. this sjw term has been created in the last decade and doesnt have nearly the complex history of that word. also its not like "sjw" is being used in a different way from you than the alt right. it still has the connotation that someone cares too much about a marginalized group.
its also not a substantive critique, its just an insult and in my opinion a pretty lazy one
 

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Why does the origin matter if it encapsulates the idea you are trying to convey?
Origin doesn't matter, connotations matter. The far right has turned SJW into a term meant to attack even the idea of caring about justice on a social level. Even if you only used the term against the ones you think really "deserved" it, whoever hears/reads you won't know that.

And, like @-19 said, it's an insult, not a critique.
 

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terrible false equivalency. this sjw term has been created in the last decade and doesnt have nearly the complex history of that word. also its not like "sjw" is being used in a different way from you than the alt right. it still has the connotation that someone cares too much about a marginalized group.
its also not a substantive critique, its just an insult and in my opinion a pretty lazy one
How does a word get a 'complex history' if we try and police who should and shouldn't use it? If we don't like how it is currently used, why not co-opt it for a different purpose? Sound familiar?
And is it impossible to care too much about a marganilized group? And some people don't twist real sexist/racist/homophobic issues to their own personal benefit?
 
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