What Made Marlo Stanfield's Crew So Dangerous (The Wire)

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I'm wondering what made Marlo Stanfield's crew so dangerous
The best thing that I could come up with was they were younger and hungrier
They also seemed a bit more organized and they trained.

They would go out and practice shooting.
They would play paintball in the hood to practice hunting people down.

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People always forget they had a lot of luck on their side. They were fukking up and talking on cell phones early on before Marlo was under Prop Joe's tutelage. The cops could've busted them easy in their infancy, but the CID was dysfunctional at the time and wouldn't get an investigation going. They had that idiot Maramo or whoever in charge refusing to do wiretaps.

Avon's crew was weak because Avon and a lot of them were locked up or had been killed and Stringer wasn't interested in going to war over corners.

Avon's team would've eventually crushed him once they tooled up and got more soldiers on their payroll. Remember Slim Charles and them had the drop Marlo, Chris, and Snoop outside the rim shop but the cops busted Avon's spot before he could give the okay. That would've been it for them.

They were ruthless and organized, but they had a lot of circumstances go right for them.
 

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Yeah they were just another young, vicious crew, and then they got lucky. New Day Co op was trying to keep the peace and gave them room to expand. Season 1 Marlo's bullshyt wouldnt have gone under the radar.
 

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People always forget they had a lot of luck on their side. They were fukking up and talking on cell phones early on before Marlo was under Prop Joe's tutelage. The cops could've busted them easy in their infancy, but the CID was dysfunctional at the time and wouldn't get an investigation going. They had that idiot Maramo or whoever in charge refusing to do wiretaps.

Avon's crew was weak because Avon and a lot of them were locked up or had been killed and Stringer wasn't interested in going to war over corners.

Avon's team would've eventually crushed him once they tooled up and got more soldiers on their payroll. Remember Slim Charles and them had the drop Marlo, Chris, and Snoop outside the rim shop but the cops busted Avon's spot before he could give the okay. That would've been it for them.

They were ruthless and organized, but they had a lot of circumstances go right for them.

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Stanfield and Boardley Investigations

Stanfield Investigation

The investigative process—incorporating controlled arrests, random interviews, and grand jury investigations—was developed during the 1986 Timmirror Stanfield homicide investigation. Stanfield, a classic gang leader, was 25 years old when he was indicted. He headed a drug gang of more than 50 members that controlled South Baltimore's Westport area and West Baltimore's Murphy Homes housing project. The gang was extremely violent and had grown so bold that it denied postal workers access to Westport on their daily rounds.

The gang was responsible for several murders, and the investigation focused on four of the murders that occurred at the 725 George Street highrise. Former Maryland State Attorney Kurt Schmoke authorized Assistant State Attorney Howard Gersh to use a special grand jury to investigate the gang. Approximately 40 gang members and other neighborhood witnesses testified before the panel. Within 5 months, the four cases were prepared for trial, with 15 gang members ready to testify against Stanfield. Three of the cases were presented for prosecution, and convictions were secured against the nucleus of the gang.

Boardley Investigation

With certain modifications and on a larger scale, the investigative process developed in the Stanfield case was used in the Boardley investigation with equally impressive results. Warren Boardley, Nadir Abdullah, and Christopher Burrows controlled a vast drug distribution network centered in the Lexington Terrace/Poe Homes housing project and spreading throughout the West Baltimore and Cherry Hill areas of the city. The gang employed four full-time gunmen and used eight others, all hired by contract.

The scope of this investigation was broader than the Stanfield investigation in that it sought to employ the federal Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act statute, which used murder, narcotics trafficking, and money laundering as the predicated crimes. The results were similarly impressive. Several members turned against the gang nucleus, even though the core group was not incarcerated while the grand jury was sitting.

The investigative process employed in the Boardley investigation works because of the way in which each gang member is bonded to the gang. In areas where gangs flourish, gang membership to achieve status and money is an accepted norm, like pursuing an education, a job, or sports. Consequently, youth with minimal or no criminal tendencies are drawn to gangs and fall under the tutelage of gang leaders. Most members do not comprehend the scope of the gang's lawlessness and are not prepared for the types of crime assigned to them. The degree of adaptation or corruption depends on the individual's proclivity for crime. The assignment to commit a criminal act occurs before the subject is able to make an intelligent choice. Therefore, the subject becomes committed to the gang despite strong reservations that may linger.

The Stanfield investigation was developed and prosecuted by the state. The Boardley investigation was a joint effort by state and federal authorities. Both investigations were successful, and both approaches have their merits. A joint investigation takes advantage of the strengths of each. A major weakness, highlighted in the Boardley investigation, is the lack of clearly established lines of responsibility among the federal and local participants.

Investigations' Conclusions

From the evidence gathered in the Stanfield and Boardley investigations, it appears that only a few members adopted the violent mentality of the core group. The majority of gang members appear to be trapped between their essentially good upbringing and their fear of the gang's violence. Those members who are uncertain and confused are the ones who the investigators target. The process proposes to resolve a subject's conflicts by offering a safe alternative to the gang—cooperation with government officials.

The investigative strategy achieves its primary goals. This process disempowers the leader, disrupts the integrity of the gang, and generates new evidence that leads to successful prosecutions of the gang's nucleus. The investigative process has a significant impact on both those who cooperate and those who are prosecuted. Based on 1998 data, the Murphy Homes area—formerly known as the Murder Homes—has not experienced new gang or gang-related murders. Drug dealing still exists in the neighborhood, but not with the degree of organization or violence imposed by the former gang.

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Marlo Stanfield is a mix of Timirror Stanfield and Marlow Bates. I remember when I was little one of my uncles got to beefing wit den one night and a nikka shot him in the ass out Westport cause he told him fukk no you not frisking me in no dope line lol...some might not understand but getting shot in the ass out there at that time wasnt normal as most ppl got killed on the spot. My uncle is not a small dude...6'4 280...dude shot him and hit him in the head wit the pistol and my uncle was gettin up sayin bytch ima kill u lls...dude ran away thru the projects...I grew up around Marlow and Timir...the ppl under them were just as if not more psychotic lls
 

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Also to add to Marlo's luck was Avon had wack soldiers. He went after Omar while warring with Marlo and couldn't take two goliaths at once. Also found about stringers role in d'angelos death.

Too much pressure had him doing things that he shouldn't have done. Even then he was good in the end, albeit in jail.
 

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It was part of the 'ain't shyt changed' story, new crew come up, old ones get left in the bushes.
There's always new crews coming up in those type of cities :manny:. I also think as Avon hinted, Stringer Bell was too focused on other things while the towers were still active, which gave Marlo the space and time to build up a solid crew. If they were trying to run the west side, they would've handed Marlo an offer he couldn't far before he had the time to become a don.

But if that was the end, his reign on the top was shorter than leprechauns. Avon and them had been running the streets for years until McNulty & Co ass's came through and made them weak. I think their strength was their weakness, they were too violent. If he had a Stringer Bell type of character in his life, instead of Prop Joes snake ass being his advisor, my guess is that the crew would've been stronger. And also who knows what could've happened if String hadn't talked on Avon.That super violent shyt only works in extremely corrupt countries like Mexico, Colombia etc.
 

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Because everyone feared Chris........................
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Chris wasn't scared of Marlo...they was boys. He knew Marlo would make sure his wife and kids was straight. Chris just didn't wanna deal wit the hassle of selling drugs and preferred putting in work...plus he was good at it
 

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Barksdale who claimed to inspire 'The Wire' charged in federal court
Nathan 'Bodie' Barksdale says David Simon used his story to create the fictional Avon Barksdale
Actor Wood Harris, who played Avon Barksdale in The Wire, interviews… (YouTube )
November 29, 2013|By Ian Duncan, The Baltimore Sun
A few years back, Nathan “Bodie” Barksdale had a public spat with “The Wire” creator David Simon over the extent to which he was an inspiration for drug boss Avon Barksdale in the series. All the while, he vowed that he was long out of the game.

But now the Drug Enforcement Administration says Barksdale is a high-ranking member of the Black Guerrilla Family. U.S. marshals arrested him this week on federal heroin and gun charges after he spent a short spell on the run.

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Barksdale, 52, is accused of taking part in a heroin conspiracy with alleged drug supplier Suraj Tairu, who is also charged in the case. The pair would meet to conduct deals at Rite Aid parking lots just north of downtown Baltimore, according to court documents.

Tairu’s lawyer said his client has pleaded not guilty, and he is reviewing the evidence ahead of a trial scheduled for next year. Barksdale’s attorney declined to comment on the case.

But his mother, Emma Grier, said she did not know anything about the charges and believed Barksdale’s life was back on track.

“He was working and everything,” she added. “He’s turned his life around.”

But the DEA’s Special Investigations Group, a team of federal agents and Baltimore police, has long been working to bring down top figures in the BGF, said DEA spokesman Edward Marcinko. The agency first named Barksdale as a BGF member in court documents in 2010.

At the time, Barksdale, who Marcinko said has been shot more than 20 times, denied having any link to the gang whenasked about the claim by the Baltimore City Paper.

“I’m a filmmaker,” he said. “I’m pushing 50, man. I’m too old for that. That’s for teenagers.”

Shortly before that, Barksdale worked to develop a television series portraying himself as the “real Avon Barksdale.” He said his middle name was indeed Avon.

Barksdale was a notorious Baltimore criminal in the 1980s, and Simon detailed his violent heroin-dealing operation in the Murphy Homes, reporting that he counted Hitler and Machiavelli among his heroes.

But in an email, Simon said that while he had no problem with Barksdale marketing his own show, Nathan Barksdale and Avon Barksdale were not one and the same. Nor for that matter is the character Bodie on “The Wire” modeled on Nathan Barksdale, Simon added.

“There are some anecdotal connections between his story and a multitude of characters,” Simon said. “We mangled street and given names throughout ‘The Wire’ so that it was a general shout-out to the west-side players. But there is nothing that corresponds to a specific character.”

As in “The Wire,” authorities used a wiretap to help build the case against Barksdale. His calls were recorded after an informant provided officers with his number this past spring, according to court documents.
 

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Because they have the most proficient shooters and Marlo was ruthless and a sociopath. Chris and Snoop were the most proficient shooters and they trained Mike and O-Dogg, and others to be just as accurate.

Btw, Simon said Chris was in the military but they never got a chance to put that into the show.
 
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