What the Jews won’t tell you - they took their history from ancient sumeria

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If nobody told you today… just wanted to give you your daily reminder you are a fukkin f*qqit


Why was my thread on the Chinese communist and Jews deleted?

Answer me!!
I reported that thread. It was nothing but recycled Nazi propaganda. Go back to 4ch*n or whatever hole you crawled out from.
 
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I know it’s hard for followers if Abrahamic faiths to accept that Yahweh was just another in a long line of man made gods, but it’s the truth. He is nothing special…no different from Zeus, Aeries or Thor.

It boggles my mind that people can worship a man made god whose creation by ancient humans is clearly documented.

So who “created“ Yahweh?
 

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@Pull Up the Roots

I have you on ignore and can’t see your post but props for not being a coward

I sincerely hope you are Jewish because if you aren’t … I’m certain I have known more Jews than you and been in the highest circles and tables with them, if I was a nazi they wouldn’t have broke bread with me or invited me to their family gatherings

Nothing was propaganda and you spewing that over and over doesn’t make it true
 

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I reported that thread. It was nothing but recycled Nazi propaganda. Go back to 4ch*n or whatever hole you crawled out from.
whats wild with this thread is that more people would have a cause against the Nation of Israel IF they were religious

because they would literally be judging them based on what it says in Judges :wtf: if they arent already
 

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@MMS i'm still chewing on what you wrote. i get the sense of it, just not sure how you're pulling it all together.

like with the below...

you say "ptah is said in some myths to have brought forth ra"

but if you read it the way i do "the creator is said in some myths to have brought forth created speech"

where is this coming from as it relates to ra?

and still, if this conception was understood by the ancients, why was the cult of amun pitted against the cult of the aten?

All gods are three: Amun, Re, and Ptah, whom none equals. He who hides his name as Amun, he appears to the face as Re, his body is Ptah.[23]

the aten was an aspect of ra. so the disc of the aten should have been understood as the face of the "hidden one" amun.



also, not getting what you're trying to get me to see with the story of pasiphae. you make a lot of post linking stories like this, and i understand you are using them to illustrate points within your dialogue but you never explain them. in this instance, i would appreciate if you could explain the significance of pasiphae with relation to the statement made about it, and maybe with revealing your thought process, I can better understand the mythological references you make going forward.
 
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@MMS i'm still chewing on what you wrote. i get the sense of it, just not sure how you're pulling it all together.

like with the below...



where is this coming from as it relates to ra?

and still, if this conception was understood by the ancients, why was the cult of amun pitted against the cult of the aten?



the aten was an aspect of ra. so the disc of the aten should have been understood as the face of the "hidden one" amun.



also, not getting what you're trying to get me to see with the story of pasiphae. you make a lot of post linking stories like this, and i understand you are using them to illustrate points within your dialogue but you never explain them. in this instance, i would appreciate if you could explain the significance of pasiphae with relation to the statement made about it, and maybe with revealing your thought process, I can better understand the mythological references you make going forward.

Pasiphae was the daughter of Helios (specifically The Sun)

Pasiphae represents "All shining light" meaning whatever she is associated with is associated with all light. So if she sired the "Cretan Bull", the cow should possess all light. And Ptah was represented by the cow as was Hathor. Consider this passage with regard to "Creative Speech" or Khepri

PASIPHAË:

If I had sold the gifts of Kypris,
given my body in secret to some man,
you would have every right to condemn me
as a whore. But this was no act of the will;
I am suffering from some madness brought on
by a god.
It’s not plausible!
What could I have seen in a bull
to assault my heart with this shameful passion?
Did he look too handsome in his robe?
Did a sea of fire smoulder in his eyes?
Was it the red tint of his hair, his dark beard?


and the Aten represents the disc alone...not necessarily the sun. The circle as you know it is a geometry found in the heavens but shared amongst all the planets and stars (from our perspective as a function of visible light)
 

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Pasiphae represents "All shining light" meaning whatever she is associated with is associated with all light.

i got this.

So if she sired the "Cretan Bull", the cow should possess all light.

got this too.

And Ptah was represented by the cow as was Hathor.

this is true of both.

so.

are you making a link between this grecian story and that of the egyptian?

hathor, daughter of the sun.
slept with the bull ptah?

Creation Role:
She was both the primeval hand that aroused the creator and the vital force of his seed, playing a key role in the formation of the universe

Consider this passage with regard to "Creative Speech" or Khepri

this is where I keep getting lost when you say "creative speech".

the only thing in that link for khepri that gets close is this.

Khepri (ḫprj) is derived from the Egyptian language verb ḫpr, meaning to "develop" or "create".[6] Khepri (ḫprj) can also be spelled "Kheper", which is the Egyptian term used to denote the sun god, the scarab beetle, and the verbs "to come into existence" or "to be born".[7]

how do you know this pertain to speech or utterances?

back to pasiphae, is this a retelling of the egyptian creation story?
 
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and the Aten represents the disc alone...not necessarily the sun. The circle as you know it is a geometry found in the heavens but shared amongst all the planets and stars (from our perspective as a function of visible light)

i think it was a little bit more than this. the disc was it's representative but it was more the force that gives all life represented by the actual rays that comes down and animates life.

The Aten was the disc of the sun and originally an aspect of Ra, the sun god in traditional ancient Egyptian religion.

it was an aspect of ra - just like khepri and atum.

The first known reference to Aten the sun-disk as a deity is in The Story of Sinuhe from the 12th Dynasty,[8] in which the deceased king is described as rising as a god to the heavens and "uniting with the sun-disk, the divine body merging with its maker".
 
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odinism requires going "within" to understand

thats why Odin and his brothers "rebuilt" Ymir into Midgard



so the person becomes the earth he stands on until returns to it etc. But the more important thing is: why does the mind require it to destroy one thing to create something else

this is why many of pagan norse were converted to christianity, its the presence of the animal logic that becomes apparent. There are other ways to approach this kind of idea

see @Marks video he posted here about "abstraction".
The issue with abstraction is when there is a second party. If you only exist you would endlessly loop within yourself, but if a second entity "exists" that looping mechanism would just appear to be like an amoeba trying to absorb other cells (see the microbe statement)

this is why abstraction is only one way of considering reality, so if you look at the apple in the video. The better look is the tree is funneling nutrients to its extremities and that its last function is to create something that it itself doesnt eat but other entities eat so that it can persist.

I forget where I posted it but its like this Esau and Jacob analysis


if you were a horse, would you grow your own grass to eat it infinitely? or do you see other horses etc

EDIT :ohhh: :ohhh: :ohhh:
 
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i think it was a little bit more than this. the disc was it's representative but it was more the force that gives all life represented by the actual rays that comes down and animates life.



it was an aspect of ra - just like khepri and atum.
i hear you but you are oversimplifying the idea of a disc/circle

in the context of Nun. Symbols and shapes are very significant

so with the backdrop of the abyss the circle is arguably the simplest form to have persistent memory



good to see you still posting, will give this a watch

have you seen this site yet? in case coli servers go down for good
 

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this is where I keep getting lost when you say "creative speech".

the only thing in that link for khepri that gets close is this.



how do you know this pertain to speech or utterances?

back to pasiphae, is this a retelling of the egyptian creation story?
in the bronze age they largely believed the same narrative, albeit with slightly different symbolism

as far as that, everything I've read says thats what they believed (creation as you speak). Later dynasties depicted multiple entities on the same barge as "powers" of "the God" but its all the same being.

as far as the Pasiphae story, ill take it a step further in a way you dont expect


he traveled all around Africa until he settled in Crete...

and there is evidence that they are the actual progenitors to the Egyptians
 
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@Marks so I watched it and came to an interesting conclusion

so if Genesis 1 starts with a context for why creation begins, and the image of God is within the narrative

the last message of what to eat, is the answer to entropy. Implying the herb will never stop growing and forming



if you think backwards out of digestion. It means a cow saw the conclusion 4 times and said I will continue chewing the cud

"You are not feeding the cow, you are feeding the microorganisms within the cow"
 
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