What's The Coli's General Consensus on Grant Cardone?

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

That they don’t have legitimate backgrounds to be managing money.

But he has a tour with Rick Ross and Snoop Dogg already booked to perform at his speaking conference next year in Las Vegas I just read. That's a lot of advertising and promotion for a "fallacy". He must be spending millions to use whatever venue to hold this event if that was truly the case.

His background is transparent but I understand what you're saying about his team, but if they're all coached by him for the X amount of years and still there wouldn't that mean Grant's doing something right? or at least his team is good at following his orders which means that as long as Grant is the direct leader of that team he controls and not a sub manager then you'll be fine? Yes/No?

He sells to salesmen. On how to sell. His courses are like $8,000. He is a prime example that you don’t need to be a genius to get rich though because genius he is not.

But, ingenious nonetheless.

credentials like education just show how connected or rich their parents are and how good of a fit they are in a corporate environment. This shyt isnt a meritocracy.

Exactly. Any job that isn't rocket science or in the medical profession doesn't need to be so strict on who gets hired.

 

[⠀X ⠀]

He's good for surface level motivation but you'll probably have to cash out thousands to get any real game. Buy his products if you want but you can likely get the same knowledge from the "6 Figures, 6 Certs" section or Reddit for free.

 

[invalid]

credentials like education just show how connected or rich their parents are and how good of a fit they are in a corporate environment. This shyt isnt a meritocracy.

You're not representing my Fortune 500 company with $25 billion in annual revenue having gone to University of Phoenix Law School. I want to see Northwestern or Stanford. I want to see Wachtell and Mayer Brown. I want to see the high profile cases that you've won. I can't judge your future performance without assessing your past record including the foundation to which you built that record which includes education.

Granted, I’m not a name brand whore. And someone as salesy and cheesy as Cardone I’m not expecting to have went Wharton. Whatever both him and his management teams backgrounds are, I still want to know it. If you’re giving your money over to somebody, you want to know that they have the record to back up what type of returns they say they can produce.

But he has a tour with Rick Ross and Snoop Dogg already booked to perform at his speaking conference next year in Las Vegas I just read. That's a lot of advertising and promotion for a "fallacy". He must be spending millions to use whatever venue to hold this event if that was truly the case.

His background is transparent but I understand what you're saying about his team, but if they're all coached by him for the X amount of years and still there wouldn't that mean Grant's doing something right? or at least his team is good at following his orders which means that as long as Grant is the direct leader of that team he controls and not a sub manager then you'll be fine? Yes/No?

Are you serious at the bolded?

Wait, are you talking about him as a motivational speaker or him as a money manager? If he’s using them as a way to bring money into his fund, that’s a red flag. If he’s using them for a motivational speaking conference, that’s a different story.

I don’t know anything about him as a motivational speaker so I can’t comment on that. I’m not the type that listens to motivational speakers.

If you feel like what him and his team are offering is legit, go for it. But he’s a salesman and knows how to tell you the right stuff. He works off of emotion. Personally, I don’t want a salesman managing my money. One of the most basic things about investing is knowing the management team. His background and record are not transparent enough for me to even consider him seriously. But if it works for you have at it.

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

You're not representing my Fortune 500 company with $25 billion in annual revenue having gone to University of Phoenix Law School. I want to see Northwestern or Stanford. I want to see Wachtell and Mayer Brown. I want to see the high profile cases that you've won. I can't judge your future performance without assessing your past record including the foundation to which you built that record which includes education.

Granted, I’m not a name brand whore. And someone as salesy and cheesy as Cardone I’m not expecting to have went Wharton. Whatever both him and his management teams backgrounds are, I still want to know it. If you’re giving your money over to somebody, you want to know that they have the record to back up what type of returns they say they can produce.



Are you serious at the bolded?

Wait, are you talking about him as a motivational speaker or him as a money manager? If he’s using them as a way to bring money into his fund, that’s a red flag. If he’s using them for a motivational speaking conference, that’s a different story.

I don’t know anything about him as a motivational speaker so I can’t comment on that. I’m not the type that listens to motivational speakers.

If you feel like what him and his team are offering is legit, go for it. But he’s a salesman and knows how to tell you the right stuff. He works off of emotion. Personally, I don’t want a salesman managing my money. One of the most basic things about investing is knowing the management team. His background and record are not transparent enough for me to even consider him seriously. But if it works for you have at it.

I was being sarcastic in that sentence you bolded.

I meant as a financial guru/investor/manager whatever he does for people to invest and make big bank.

I didn't intend for this thread to be about investing in him wholly per-se, but the guide that he is giving is it ultimately truthful and if so by following the guide that he sets out in his books would they work for the everyday person or would you need to be a financial guru which he is. Which inturn would take the average person years to attain the same skill level that he currently has?

Ultimately, what I'm asking is the "dream" he's selling a real one that is attainable in one's average real life with the guide he's set alone in his speeches/motivational talks/books real or partly-true and the real advice would be in his $8000 seminars which he is using these mass venues to attract people to attend which is what I think his recent social media presence seems to be geared towards.

It's like he advises you not to attend university then he says that he can help you out for the low-low price of 8 grand.

there's other things too but I'm drained. Usually when people speak sense they don't strike me as they're trying to sell me something.

 

[invalid]

I was being sarcastic in that sentence you bolded.

I meant as a financial guru/investor/manager whatever he does for people to invest and make big bank.

Ah...gotcha.

I don't want to sully the man's reputation either cause I don't know what he's pushing as a financial guru and whether it works or not.

I was just pointing out some observations that were red flags with respect to him being an investment manager as someone that actually works in the industry. I just don't want to see black people being taken advantage so I'm super critical with respect to us and investing our money.

With respect to everything else you inquired about, I don't know enough to give an opinion.

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

Ah...gotcha.

I don't want to sully the man's reputation either cause I don't know what he's pushing as a financial guru and whether it works or not.

I was just pointing out some observations that were red flags with respect to him being an investment manager as someone that actually works in the industry. I just don't want to see black people being taken advantage so I'm super critical with respect to us and investing our money.

With respect to everything else you inquired about, I don't know enough to give an opinion.

If you're in that sector, consider me who is on a tech career path to potentially make some considerable income in the coming years... Real estate would be something I'd rather invest my money into as opposed to something as fickle as stocks I don't know anything about, so what would you direct me to read/digest to understand what Grant is talking about but how *you see it.

What courses or information would help me understand the field as you know it in a real life way.

All I want is a guide that works in 2019 and in the foreseeable future.

I don't even know where to start or what to search. Point me in the right direction and go into depth if u can.

 

[invalid]

If you're in that sector, consider me who is on a tech career path to potentially make some considerable income in the coming years... Real estate would be something I'd rather invest my money into as opposed to something as fickle as stocks

My professional background was in investment management. I worked for funds that managed portfolios of your traditional stocks/bonds/mutuals but also of other complex and exotic alternative investment products. Stocks are not fickle if you put in the time to do your research. Like everything else you have to put in the time to understand the industry and market environment.

But here are some good beginner books on real estate investing.

Confessions of a Real Estate Entrepreneur (Author went to Columbia)-


The Real Estate Game: The Intelligent Guide To Decision making And Investment (Author teaches at Harvard Business School)-


Investing in Apartment Buildings: Create a Reliable Stream of Income and Build Long-Term Wealth

 

[Nobu]

He seems slimy because he's a scientologist. Not saying that makes everything he says invalid, but I am very skeptical of cult members.

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

He seems slimy because he's a scientologist. Not saying that makes everything he says invalid, but I am very skeptical of cult members.

I don't knock people's belief systems. If it gets him from point-A to point-B without doing something drastic to himself/others then I'm all for it.

But, he does come across as too slick. Like he's never at a loss for words.

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

My professional background was in investment management. I worked for funds that managed portfolios of your traditional stocks/bonds/mutuals but also of other complex and exotic alternative investment products. Stocks are not fickle if you put in the time to do your research. Like everything else you have to put in the time to understand the industry and market environment.

But here are some good beginner books on real estate investing.

Confessions of a Real Estate Entrepreneur (Author went to Columbia)-


The Real Estate Game: The Intelligent Guide To Decision making And Investment (Author teaches at Harvard Business School)-


Investing in Apartment Buildings: Create a Reliable Stream of Income and Build Long-Term Wealth

So, what he is saying is 100% true... but you're skeptical on him specifically? I feel ya.

I'll check those books out, but I'm not looking to learn the entire field. I just want a guide on what to do step by step... will that book give it to me? I'm not looking to spend a lifetime to figure out how real estate works. I just want a plan that works in 2019 without any missteps.

I can't be asking for too much am I?

 

[Nobu]

I don't knock people's belief systems. If it gets him from point-A to point-B without doing something drastic to himself/others then I'm all for it.

But, he does come across as too slick. Like he's never at a loss for words.

Scientology is not a legit belief system man. It's more like a cult meets Multi Level Marketing scheme. You have to pay thousands of dollar to get "promoted" to various levels and unlock knowledge of aliens and shyt. They harass and blackmail people who badmouth them. Someone who believes in such a scam "religion" is not to be trusted.

 

[Jimmy Two-Times™]

Scientology is not a legit belief system man. It's more like a cult meets Multi Level Marketing scheme. You have to pay thousands of dollar to get "promoted" to various levels and unlock knowledge of aliens and shyt. They harass and blackmail people who badmouth them. Someone who believes in such a scam "religion" is not to be trusted.

It really sounds like a secret society. Like a Skull & Crossbones crew brought to modern times.

 

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Why are y'all talking about college backgrounds, as if colleges teach people how to buy and manage real estate?

 

[peppe]

I only listen to him for real estate advice and those are his best YouTube videos



when he dissects a deal , it really interesting to see what comes with it