Every time an album flop you get these fake marketer talking about the artist should of release this song to Radio. You are talking about radio in 2013. Radio which gets the music late. The internet is way more effective. Its rare that radio gets exclusive first ex. control. Meek and cassidy and the other kendrick diss were heard first on the internet. Artists flop because we are living in rough economical times. Detroit is bankrupt. Nobody is selling any records anymore give it a fukking rest. Lil wayne album flopped....nicki album flopped.....kanye album flopped....who fukking cares. They are eating off shows. Do we talk about movies flopping every week. They are 300k unemployed people and more thats not registered. People are losing their homes. Shut the fuk up about album sales and listen to the music. Bob marley didnt get big until he went to england. Those early years of music >>>> the big hit records....
When an album doesnt sell well why is it the artist fault
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thats a damn lie. Besides 50 who ever talk about album sales?? Jay drop it a few times but not on all his records....
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mc_brew
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i agree, it's not always the artist's fault that an album flopped.... there are so many things that go into making a hit record that many things can go wrong that are out of the control of the artist... sometimes, it's just not meant to be.... other times it could just be the wrong time to release a record... sometimes it's just the record label screwed up... sometimes it's just the artist sucks... too many reasons, not all related to the artist though...
mc_brew
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worse than that, they always complain about the quality of music.. when they hear something that is up to the quality level they claim they want, they don't support it...
so true. You'll always here blog music that gets a lot of attention, but when the song is finally available on iTunes, no1 supports it. Thats y u hear the same same skittering High Hat beats (trap beats) and the same "fukk bytches, get money" type themes on the radio for hours at a time
before these dudes started talking about sales all the time who cared about sales? lol, when i was growing up nobody ever even thought about that shyt, never. if an album is really dope i believe it will gain some sort of commercial success, it's inevitable, a lot of times it's not all about lack of marketing or lack of a strong single, sometimes it's the artists fault because they albums be pure garbage and the word spreads.
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to be fair, LL said this in the 80s: "how you like me now, i'm getting busier/ i'm double-platinum, i'm watching you get dizzier/"
krs one also made many lines referencing artists complaining about record sales...
just because you and your homies never mentioned record sales doesn't mean no one thought anything about selling records... remember, the purpose of recording an album and putting it in a store is to sell it..... but again, it's not always the artists fault that their album doesn't sell... so many variables go into a successful project... and all dope albums don't sell either... there are many dope albums that have flopped....
Some artists are still doing numbers. It's just that now EVERYBODY isn't doing numbers like in the 90's and early 00's.
1. just because he mentioned sales doesn't mean we were infatuated with it and needed to know what nikkas was selling the first week and second week and all this, lol, nobody gave a fukk about all that.
2. a "flop" is subjective. illmatic "flopped" in a sense when it first dropped, but once word spread that is was amazing that shyt went gold, and eventually went platinum but that was much later...it was already platinum in the street wayy before that, shyt was dumb bootlegged. most quality classic albums sell, check the history. i aint talkin about double/triple platinum, but i mean they have success.. there are exceptions, but just look at all the classics.
mc_brew
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1. nobody talked about first week and second week sales back then because there was no soundscan to record those numbers back then.... rappers however did care about record sales... why do you think run-dmc recorded "walk this way"... the purpose was to sell more records... i get a little annoyed with people whining about sales talk because i already know this whole "talking about sales is the devil" line of thinking came from krs... he's the one that started off complaining about people mentioning record sales... he's even said that rappers shouldn't rely on record sales for money, but instead should invest in other ventures... there must have been sales talk back then for him to even mention those kind of things.. .and this was in the 80s....
2. flop is subjective, but if you're not selling enough records for the record label to continue putting out your music then you can basically say you've flopped... lots of cats flopped... though i might agree with you that most dope records achieve enough success, they don't all achieve it... some dope records fail to succeed for any number of reasons... btw, everyone can't make a classic and making a classic shouldn't be the yardstick as to whether you should be able to make music or not... if every album were classic, being classic would become rudimentary....
3. ice cube (from the early 90s): "down wit the ****** that i bail out/ i'm platinum bytch and i didn't have to sell out/"
ahh, okay, that's the disconnect. i'm talking about us, the listeners, not the rappers. of course the rappers cared, lol, that's their livelihood .