When Did the NBA/Basketball Get so Pussified?

[froggle]

I know Stern been the dictator of the league for awhile, but why did he make the switch to make the NBA softer? Was it Corporate money? Gone are the days where a hard foul is now considered to be a flagrant and every touch is a foul. You got players like my MVP who take pride and joy in flopping. It is pretty disgusting that men ...no homo.. have to restrained in what is a physical game.

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bring back the taunting, if you can't handle the ridicule of being on the court then sucks for you.

For those of you who play ball, it seems that there are a lot of cats who when they play, if you even breathe on them its a foul. Back in the day, you had to damn near get clobbered before you even consider talk about being fouled

 

[YourMajesty]

Everything changed I think after Malice at The Palace

 

[Heelmatic]

It starts with the players. The league is filled with soft, emotional, p*ssy ass nikkas

 

[THE K-MAN]

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shyt statred to slowly change after that

 

[ZEupTWN]

It starts with the players. The league is filled with soft, emotional, p*ssy ass nikkas

Hilarious when nikkas say shyt like this

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Everything changed I think after Malice at The Palace

Right. Even before that, the NBA was earning an image problem as being a collection of overpaid, undisciplined, jacob the jeweler obsessed losers, with the malice being a culmination of that. More importantly, the product was awful during the early to mid '00s.

I think a point could be made that Stern was right for initiating a dress code, and cracking down on fights and aggressive play as an initial response; but now those rules and mandates are completely unnecessary, and they're really hurting the product and the game itself. I suspect Stern and his conservative buddies have grown comfortable with the idea of controlling their black players, and are doing it more for their own personal enjoyment, as opposed to enhancing the NBA game and its corporate viability.

 

[Taadow]

I came in to say what was said in the second and sixth posts.

But while i'm here, i'll add that it is HILARIOUS that the NBA has a dress code and then see the used car salesman-ass blazer Stern has on in that pic in the first post.

 

[Kid McNamara]

Right. Even before that, the NBA was earning an image problem as being a collection of overpaid, undisciplined, jacob the jeweler obsessed losers, with the malice being a culmination of that. More importantly, the product was awful during the early to mid '00s.

I think a point could be made that Stern was right for initiating a dress code, and cracking down on fights and aggressive play. But now its completely unnecessary, and its really hurting the product and the game itself. I suspect Stern and his conservative buddies have grown comfortable with the idea of controlling their black players, and are doing it more for their own personal enjoyment, as opposed to enhancing the NBA game and its corporate viability.

Just to add on to this. The gangster/mafioso image of hip-hop was in style and Jordan was past his prime drawing ability. The league lost a fair amount of its casual (read, white) viewership as a result and Stern had to salvage the product by appealing to an increasingly global viewership and attempting to recapture some of the lost casual fans.

When the image doesn't match, toughness is considered thuggery, which is why players/teams could get away with all of that physical behavior in the 80s/90s. There also used to be a core of tough, hard-nosed white boys and foreign born players who didn't take any shyt. But when nigs enter the arena listening to 50 and wearing shirts that are eight sizes too large, white folks give the side eye.

He probably overreacted a bit, but I agree, a lot of the changes were probably good at the time but need to be rescinded at this point.

 

[Heelmatic]

Hilarious when nikkas say shyt like this

The league is soft bruh and that boils down to the players.

 

[PTBG]

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[the white hiphop thief]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUti7sertHE

shyt statred to slowly change after that

Nah it was after the brawl in Detroit..Nobody in the 90's ever really complained about the league like they did in the early 2000's it was a much older league in the 90's guys in less tats to scare off the heartland,hiphop culture really didnt dominate the league yet..

The brawl in the palace changed things because theyre was already a disconnect with the older whtie fanbase by the 2000's and once these big scary black guys started attacking the white fans and Stern saw his white money possibly disappear he went apesh!t..

 

[avon barksdale]

Right. Even before that, the NBA was earning an image problem as being a collection of overpaid, undisciplined, jacob the jeweler obsessed losers, with the malice being a culmination of that. More importantly, the product was awful during the early to mid '00s.

I think a point could be made that Stern was right for initiating a dress code, and cracking down on fights and aggressive play as an initial response; but now those rules and mandates are completely unnecessary, and they're really hurting the product and the game itself. I suspect Stern and his conservative buddies have grown comfortable with the idea of controlling their black players, and are doing it more for their own personal enjoyment, as opposed to enhancing the NBA game and its corporate viability.

That dress code was the worst thing that happen...look at all the trolling the players are doing to rebel against Stern.

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

The Palace incident was the last straw. But in my honest opinion Stern's hate for Iverson changed the NBA. Even though A.I. wasn't the dirty/fighting type he wanted everything associated with Iverson gone.

As a fan I feel cheated. All my life I grew up with highlights of dudes getting in each other's faces, fights, scuffles, hard fouls the whole 9.

When we look back 10 years from now the only highlights we gonna have is Lebron getting fouled out in the ECF for setting a pick . I really hate the NBA

 

[JBoy]

In fairness watching the NBA for physical play is like moving to Florida for cold weather in my book
I don't fukk with a lot of these ticky tack ass fouls though

 

[froggle]

Just to add on to this. The gangster/mafioso image of hip-hop was in style and Jordan was past his prime drawing ability. The league lost a fair amount of its casual (read, white) viewership as a result and Stern had to salvage the product by appealing to an increasingly global viewership and attempting to recapture some of the lost casual fans.

When the image doesn't match, toughness is considered thuggery, which is why players/teams could get away with all of that physical behavior in the 80s/90s. There also used to be a core of tough, hard-nosed white boys and foreign born players who didn't take any shyt. But when nigs enter the arena listening to 50 and wearing shirts that are eight sizes too large, white folks give the side eye.

He probably overreacted a bit, but I agree, a lot of the changes were probably good at the time but need to be rescinded at this point.

But maybe I can't relate cause I am black, but is it that white people are scared of black people acting tough? I mean in the NHL, all I see are players with knocked out teeth and everyboy treats fighting as a badge of honor. I dont watch hockey, but is it the same time of white person watching these sports or hockey is for those down the social totem pole?