When will the left throw min wage in the bushes, and focus on collective bargaining and stronger safety nets?
The numbers speak for themselves.
When will the left throw min wage in the bushes...
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When will the left throw min wage in the bushes, and focus on collective bargaining and stronger safety nets?
The numbers speak for themselves.
It's not mutually exclusive. But an increased minimum wage seems more tenable and probable right now than strengthening unions and collective bargaining. What you're ignoring however is that the arguments will be the same. The same businesses that are currently claiming they cannot afford to raise minimum and that it will cost jobs, will be required to do just that and provide superior benefits if unionization becomes the status quo. They make the same arguments right now when employees attempt to unionize. The arguments will frequently overlap.
When will the left throw min wage in the bushes, and focus on collective bargaining and stronger safety nets?
The numbers speak for themselves.
Vandelay
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When you say focus on collective bargaining, do you mean where in the bushes to aim?
What do you mean by safety nets as well?
I don't particularly like raising minimum wage but that income is going to get subsidized somewhere...i rather the employer do it than the government.
What do you mean by safety nets as well?
I don't particularly like raising minimum wage but that income is going to get subsidized somewhere...i rather the employer do it than the government.
More damaging as well according to the CBO report.
I think its a trade off most business's would gladly make, and one that benefit the AA community tremendously. We just need articulate(and charismatic) people in congress willing to openly advocate it.
That said, we really need to rethink public sector unions... IMHO the are hurting more than helping.
People really think if there was no MW... People would be working at The Gap for 1 dollar an hour
I think getting more people(especially minorities) into the workforce, will provide a bigger long term gain, then increasing the quality of life for those currently in the workforce. This means govt. footing the bill.
... and lets not insinuate business's don't pay taxes and contribute a healthy share of that burden.
edit: the specifics of the safety net(s) is subject to debate, i would just prefer the discussion to be there, rather than on whether or not to raise the wage every 10yrs or so.
the cac mamba
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what does america have, 300 million more ppl 
what does america have, 300 million more ppl
Could you expand on this? cause Im sure you know unemployment is measured in %...
the cac mamba
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there gets to a point where its harder to provide the same percentage for a larger amount of people
Except your missing one key detail, rich white people and their cac attitudes. The Walton family owns $100 billion estimated with Wal-Mart, and that store is utter shyt. With a bigger population, if there is not a minimum wage hike, legit peeps will use Medicaid and be a burden on taxpayers. By giving people $15 p/hr, you take them of social programs and be able to lower the tax bracket because the need for socialize programs goes down. Not to mention we have the huge jail infrastructure and military to support tax wise. Straight up America has financial diabetes, and we need insulin to keep it running properly.
For a time, til inflation eats the wage and your looking at another wage increase.(I think we are on our 27th wage increase) Its not a solution nor a good band-aid IMHO.
I'd also question the underlined, you lift nearly 1 million or so (using CBO estimates) and add 500,000 to social programs...
This cant be the kind of progress we are looking for?
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You provide free healthcare from the womb to the tomb, free education from ABCs to PhDs (With stipend for students), robust social safety nets, common stipend to all from all resources of the land (controlled by the state), labor rights, collective bargaining as a fundamental right for business to exist, mandatory paid vacation and sick days, mandatory paternal/maternal paid time off, close corporate tax loop holes, raise taxes on corporations who relocate any major portion of their business overseas, environmental protection laws, campaign finance laws, and a well-kept and well-funded public transportation system...
and we can get rid of minimum wage.
You provide free healthcare from the womb to the tomb, free education from ABCs to PhDs (With stipend for students), robust social safety nets, common stipend to all from all resources of the land (controlled by the state), labor rights, collective bargaining as a fundamental right for business to exist, mandatory paid vacation and sick days, mandatory paternal/maternal paid time off, close corporate tax loop holes, raise taxes on corporations who relocate any major portion of their business overseas, environmental protection laws, campaign finance laws, and a well-kept and well-funded public transportation system...
and we can get rid of minimum wage.