When You Give a Teacher a Gun

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When You Give a Teacher a Gun

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Jay Willis
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The question is no longer "should we arm teachers?" Now, it's "how many armed teachers are already out there?" We flew down to Ohio to embed with the men and women behind FASTER Saves Lives, a group that has trained thousands of teachers from all across the country how to shoot to kill.

When You Give a Teacher a Gun

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If I have children, I am home schooling those fukkers. fukk this s.hit
 

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100% of Teachers ain’t built for a gun fight... That gun don’t mean shyt if they lack the proper tactics to search and engage a mass shooter...

There’s a reason Police swat teams and emergency service are trained in heavy weapons and building searches and I mean 100s of hours a year constantly training..

Your asking a teacher to carry a gun in class, is the school district paying for the teachers training? Ammo? Nope, teachers already are paid shyt and now you asking them to come out of their pockets for a $500+ gun? Lmaooo
 

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100% of Teachers ain’t built for a gun fight... That gun don’t mean shyt if they lack the proper tactics to search and engage a mass shooter...

There’s a reason Police swat teams and emergency service are trained in heavy weapons and building searches and I mean 100s of hours a year constantly training..

Your asking a teacher to carry a gun in class, is the school district paying for the teachers training? Ammo? Nope, teachers already are paid shyt and now you asking them to come out of their pockets for a $500+ gun? Lmaooo

Not everyone is capable of taking a life even if it means saving their own in the process. In that situation nothing is guaranteed, a persons response could change no matter whats expected of them. The parkland shooting had a veteran cop who chose to not go in even though he was armed and trained. Their expecting a lot from teachers. I think its far more likely some kid gets the jump on a short frail teacher, takes their firearm and and use it against them than a teacher stopping a school shooting.
 

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100% of Teachers ain’t built for a gun fight... That gun don’t mean shyt if they lack the proper tactics to search and engage a mass shooter...

There’s a reason Police swat teams and emergency service are trained in heavy weapons and building searches and I mean 100s of hours a year constantly training..

Your asking a teacher to carry a gun in class, is the school district paying for the teachers training? Ammo? Nope, teachers already are paid shyt and now you asking them to come out of their pockets for a $500+ gun? Lmaooo

Not everyone is capable of taking a life even if it means saving their own in the process. In that situation nothing is guaranteed, a persons response could change no matter whats expected of them. The parkland shooting had a veteran cop who chose to not go in even though he was armed and trained. Their expecting a lot from teachers. I think its far more likely some kid gets the jump on a short frail teacher, takes their firearm and and use it against them than a teacher stopping a school shooting.

* Securing the firearm. Police and others who carry a firearm on them know that it is a constant thought in your mind, how you allow people to approach you is always predicated on where your firearm is and assuring that they don't have access to it. It has to be on your mind at all times because the results are disastrous if you are caught slipping. Teachers already have a ton on their minds, and now you want them distracted thinking about that too? It will absolutely lower their effectiveness. And just imagine if the class is a bit rowdy, undisciplined, kids up out of their seat at the wrong times...like bnew says, someone getting a teacher's firearm is a likely result.

* Knowing when to pull. Cops are trained on deescalating situations and they still F it up a lot. How is the teacher going to know when to pull or when not to pull? On several occasions teachers or other school staff have gotten a shooter to put down the gun by talking and empathizing or reasoning with them. If the teacher had pulled the piece instead, that easily might have triggered the shooter to unload when they were about to change their mind and give up the gun. And if the shooter is a student....how are you gonna make the teacher decide when to off their own kid?

* Reaction times. The shooter is going to be the one pulling first. The shooter is the one who has already planned what he will do. The shooter is the one who is not worrying about consequences. The shooter is always gonna have the drop on the teacher. If the shooter knows that teachers might be armed, and he sees the teacher pulling, it is very unlikely that the teacher will be able to pull, get on target, and fire before they are nailed. These aren't quick-draw champs being hired.

* Target acquisition. You got to figure out who the gunman is. Then you have to make sure there's no one between you and the gunman. Then you have to make sure you're not going to hit someone behind the gunman. Then there's the issue of thin walls and shyt. Meanwhile the gunman is moving and shooting the whole time and people might be running all over anywhere in fear. This is the HARDEST part about active shooter scenarios in crowded situations. It's a total bytch for even trained cops to pull off - they're taught only to work in teams in such situations, never alone. These teachers have never done anything like this before and they're thrown into the HARDEST scenario first.

* Aim. How many hours are they gonna put into target practice? And that's stationary - these are moving. Cops hit their target with something like 13% of the bullets they fire. Teachers will do worse, and where are all those other bullets gonna go?


This is really F'd up on every level.
 

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And why not just write into state constitutions that a teacher has a right to shoot a student because she feared for her life?
 

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When I read articles like this and also about the federal workers not receiving their paychecks it highlights that we have a real wage and benefit problem that has to be resolved in society.


We have a teacher making only 22k a year with years of experience and yet we're trying to force another career on them with yet again no increase in wages.


This country really needs to change.
 
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