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Be strong out there yall. This is the world we're living in. Poor @BarNone having to take shyt like this seriously.

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Dogs have again been called into French court to testify in a murder case. Photo: Az1172/Flickr
Dog testifies in court in French murder case

Published: 03 Apr 2014 16:50 GMT+02:00

A dog was recently interrogated in French court in an effort to identify the man believed to have murdered the pooch’s owner. As barking mad as it may sound, dogs being drafted in as key witnesses, is something of a recent trend in French court cases.

No one could accuse a judge in the French city of Tours of not being willing to think outside the box in order to solve a murder.

During a recent preliminary hearing the judge called a nine-year-old Labrador named Tango to the witness stand in an attempt to confirm the allegations against his master’s presumed killer, RTL radio reported.

The judge ordered the suspect to threaten the canine with a bat, with the idea being that Tango’s reactions could be used to identify or rule out the suspect. And in a nod to the scientific method of keeping tests fair, a second dog named Norman, of the same age and breed as Tango, was brought in to serve as the 'control group'.

Perhaps not surprisingly the suspect’s lawyer, Gregoire Lafarge, said the whole thing was totally absurd.

“So if Tango lifted his right paw, moved his mouth or his tail, is he recognizing my client or not?’ Lafarge told RTL. “I find it very troubling for the French legal system. If a judge ignores the demands of reason and surrounds himself with experts who are unreasonable, well the system becomes very dangerous.”

The experiment ended up being a total failure and Tango and Norman were allowed to return to their dogs’ lives.

As absurd as it all sounds this is not a French court's first foray into canine testimony.

Only last month a vet was asked by a court in Paris to give his expert analysis of a dalmatian’s physical reactions, when the dog shown the faces of two murder suspects. Based on the dog's reactions the vet told the court it was likely the pair were responsible for the murder of the pooch’s owner.

A veterinary behaviorist, writing for the French magazine Nouvel Observateur, slammed the exercise as totally illegitimate.

“This expertise plays on popular beliefs, but has no scientific foundation,” Jacques Cordel wrote. “However, ethology (the study of animal behaviour) is real science, it’s not a joke.”

Perhaps both judges were moved to allow canine witnesses after one of their colleagues did so during a 2008 investigation into a suspicious death.

A pooch named "Scooby" was called into a court and “barked furiously” when shown a possible suspect, British paper The Telegraph reported.

Back then the Paris court’s spokesman proudly confirmed it was the first time a dog appeared as a witness in criminal proceedings in France. He was “almost certain” it was the first time it had ever happened in the world.
 

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I know some of you are like, its the french they're stupid.

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Dog in New York Court Takes the Witness Stand
June 29, 2011
By CHRISTINA NG


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A Dog Takes the Witness Stand


It was a tense moment in a Poughkeepsie courtroom when a 15-year-old girl who had been the victim of sexual abuse for four years was asked to point out the man who had violated her. The girl seemed to freeze.

Then a furry snout and wet brown nose came up over the stand and nudged her arm.

The girl's demeanor changed and she was able to point out the man in the courtroom and continue with her testimony. The man was found guilty and is facing 25 years to life in prison.

The snout that helped the girl overcome the difficult moment on June 13 belongs to Rose, affectionately called Rosie, an 11-year-old golden retriever service dog whose specialty is comforting people.

This is the first time in New York State that a service dog has sat on the witness stand during a trial.

"My heart was in my throat," said Sherry Cookinham the unit supervisor for the Children's Home in Poughkeepsie that has been helping the teenage girl. "I knew at that moment that Rosie was doing her job and the little girl was going to be okay."

The Children's Home had heard about court dogs being used in other states and thought that it could be perfect in this sensitive case and began exploring their options. One of the people they reached out to was Dale Picard, who co-founded an organization called ECAD, Educated Canines Assisting with Disabilities, with his wife Lu. ECAD is a non-profit organization in New York and Connecticut that teaches troubled teenagers who attend alternative high schools how to train the dogs.

The process helps the teens with discipline and responsibility while training service dogs. They have trained over 200 dogs that have gone on to work in a dozen states.

When Cookinham contacted Dale Picard, he knew he had the perfect dog for the task.

"I noticed really early as [Rosie] was growing up that she was special," said Picard. "She could calm kids down and kids with bad issues would gravitate towards her."

Picard has been Rose's owner and trainer since she was born. He has been trying to get dogs into courtrooms in New York for two years and had been told many times that it would never happen because it would be distracting and could sway the jury.

"People get loud and scream [in court] and it shuts children down. If we could provide them a dog in court, it would make a big difference in how they respond," Picard said. "When the dog gets the person to move, it changed the person's state of mind and helps them to open up and talk."

When Picard was contacted for this case, he was eager to do whatever it took to get Rosie into court. Over the next six weeks, Rosie spent time at the Children's Home with the victim, with the judge and inside the courthouse.

"I'm a big proponent that if there's something we can do to help a victim that's legal, we have an obligation to do it," said Kristine Hawlk, the senior district attorney involved in the case. "Rosie was totally unobtrusive. She did exactly what she was supposed to do."

Defense Attorney David Martin objected to the dog's presence. He did not return calls for comment.

Lori Stella is the clinical social worker who cared for the young victim and testified to get permission for Rosie to come to court.


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there is a video on youtube (i dont know if it is still there) with alton maddox telling a story about him walking into a courtroom and seeing a dog on the witness stand testifying against a black man...
 

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there is a video on youtube (i dont know if it is still there) with alton maddox telling a story about him walking into a courtroom and seeing a dog on the witness stand testifying against a black man...
the court is just a formality when you're black.

OL jasper barked when he saw ya boy and ol jasper only bark when he sees a familiar face.

50 years with chance of parole.

Don't be sad boy we went easy on you. Who knows maybe you'll be out in 20.
 

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I know some of you are like, its the french they're stupid.

MMMMmmmmm...........mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Dog in New York Court Takes the Witness Stand
June 29, 2011
By CHRISTINA NG


ht_golden_retriever_service_dog_dm_110629_wmain.jpg

A Dog Takes the Witness Stand


It was a tense moment in a Poughkeepsie courtroom when a 15-year-old girl who had been the victim of sexual abuse for four years was asked to point out the man who had violated her. The girl seemed to freeze.

Then a furry snout and wet brown nose came up over the stand and nudged her arm.

The girl's demeanor changed and she was able to point out the man in the courtroom and continue with her testimony. The man was found guilty and is facing 25 years to life in prison.

The snout that helped the girl overcome the difficult moment on June 13 belongs to Rose, affectionately called Rosie, an 11-year-old golden retriever service dog whose specialty is comforting people.

This is the first time in New York State that a service dog has sat on the witness stand during a trial.

"My heart was in my throat," said Sherry Cookinham the unit supervisor for the Children's Home in Poughkeepsie that has been helping the teenage girl. "I knew at that moment that Rosie was doing her job and the little girl was going to be okay."

The Children's Home had heard about court dogs being used in other states and thought that it could be perfect in this sensitive case and began exploring their options. One of the people they reached out to was Dale Picard, who co-founded an organization called ECAD, Educated Canines Assisting with Disabilities, with his wife Lu. ECAD is a non-profit organization in New York and Connecticut that teaches troubled teenagers who attend alternative high schools how to train the dogs.

The process helps the teens with discipline and responsibility while training service dogs. They have trained over 200 dogs that have gone on to work in a dozen states.

When Cookinham contacted Dale Picard, he knew he had the perfect dog for the task.

"I noticed really early as [Rosie] was growing up that she was special," said Picard. "She could calm kids down and kids with bad issues would gravitate towards her."

Picard has been Rose's owner and trainer since she was born. He has been trying to get dogs into courtrooms in New York for two years and had been told many times that it would never happen because it would be distracting and could sway the jury.

"People get loud and scream [in court] and it shuts children down. If we could provide them a dog in court, it would make a big difference in how they respond," Picard said. "When the dog gets the person to move, it changed the person's state of mind and helps them to open up and talk."

When Picard was contacted for this case, he was eager to do whatever it took to get Rosie into court. Over the next six weeks, Rosie spent time at the Children's Home with the victim, with the judge and inside the courthouse.

"I'm a big proponent that if there's something we can do to help a victim that's legal, we have an obligation to do it," said Kristine Hawlk, the senior district attorney involved in the case. "Rosie was totally unobtrusive. She did exactly what she was supposed to do."

Defense Attorney David Martin objected to the dog's presence. He did not return calls for comment.

Lori Stella is the clinical social worker who cared for the young victim and testified to get permission for Rosie to come to court.


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That story clearly states that that dog was simply used to comfort a distressed child, and not as any sort of absurd "witness" as in the French cases.
 

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there is a video on youtube (i dont know if it is still there) with alton maddox telling a story about him walking into a courtroom and seeing a dog on the witness stand testifying against a black man...

http://reinstatealtonmaddox.com/site/?p=847

Letter to Gov. Cuomo
The split trials were a trap especially when Judge John Turner of Albany County Court had allowed a dog in February 1990, to testify against a Black defendant accused of burglary in front of an all-white jury. It was the first trial in which I witnessed a dog testifying against a Black defendant.

This shyt isn't funny but I could not help but laugh. Shocking.
 
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