Who are young women dating?

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The question is easy... older men. I think this article fundamentally flawed but illuminates many of the dating issues for young men and women. I'll highlight the important bits.


TLDR; Women changed. Society changed. Men haven't and are suffering because of it.

Most young men are single. Most young women are not.

More than 60 percent of young men are single, nearly twice the rate of unattached young women, signaling a larger breakdown in the social, romantic and sexual life of the American male.

Men in their 20s are more likely than women in their 20s to be romantically uninvolved, sexually dormant, friendless and lonely. They stand at the vanguard of an epidemic of declining marriage, sexuality and relationships that afflicts all of young America.
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Societal changes that began in the Eisenhower years have eroded the patriarchy that once ruled the American home, classroom and workplace. Women now collect nearly 60 percent of bachelor's degrees. Men still earn more, but among the youngest adults, the income gap has narrowed to $43 a week.

Scholars say the new era of gender parity has reshaped relationship dynamics, empowering young women and, in many cases, removing young men from the equation.

"Women don't need to be in long-term relationships. They don't need to be married. They'd rather go to brunch with friends than have a horrible date," said Greg Matos, a couple and family psychologist in Los Angeles, who recently penned a viral article titled "What’s Behind the Rise of Lonely, Single Men."
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Not surprisingly, the decline in relationships marches astride with a decline in sex. The share of sexually active Americans stands at a 30-year low. Around 30 percent of young men reported in 2019 that they had no sex in the past year, compared to about 20 percent of young women.

Only half of single men are actively seeking relationships or even casual dates, according to Pew. That figure is declining.
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Young men "are watching a lot of social media, they're watching a lot of porn, and I think they're getting a lot of their needs met without having to go out. And I think that's starting to be a habit."
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The most important part of these studies and the answer to the thread's question:

Young women are also dating and marrying slightly older men, carrying on a tradition that stretches back more than a century. The average age at first marriage is around 30 for men, 28 for women, according to census figures.

Heterosexual women are getting more choosy. Women "don't want to marry down," to form a long-term relationship to a man with less education and earnings than herself, said Ronald Levant, professor emeritus of psychology at the University of Akron and author of several books on masculinity.

In previous generations, young women entered adulthood in a society that expected them to find a financially stable man who would support them through decades of marriage and motherhood. Over the 1950s and 1960s, that pattern gradually broke down, and today it is all but gone.

Women are tiring of their stereotypical role as full-time therapist for emotionally distant men. They want a partner who is emotionally open and empathetic, the opposite of the age-old masculine ideal.

"Today in America, women expect more from men," Levant said, "and unfortunately, so many men don't have more to give."

The same emotional deficits that hurt men in the dating pool also hamper them in forming meaningful friendships. Fifteen percent of men report having no close friendships, a fivefold increase from 1990, according to research by the Survey Center on American Life.
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"Women form friendships with each other that are emotionally intimate, whereas men do not," Levant said. Young women "may not be dating, but they have girlfriends they spend time with and gain emotional support from."
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"Guys are taught to prioritize career," Karo said. "Also romantic relationships, although it doesn't seem like they're doing a very good job at that. Making friends and keeping friends seems to be a lower priority. And once guys get older, they suddenly realize they have no friends."
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I think the article failed to talk about the cost of dating. You got 40k/year check to check women demanding 40k/ year check to check men pay for damn near all dates. How many first dates does a young guy have to waste money on before he gives up?

And if the guy points out the money issue, what’s he hit with it? If you broke, just say that. Or you’re too broke to date.
 
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These research articles always frame it as the man's fault. The 40% of college men will just have more options. Also men do have friends when they get older its just that if you have a relationship your girl takes up all your time and when men get together they are often shut down by their partners.

But women have girls nights every few weeks. However men bond in activitites like forums, sports and gaming. Instead of a specific friend it will be a community. We see what we are doing on instagram the communication is passive.

Also men are now told they need to be "emotionally available" to get women.

Women are just the ones having sex and dating
 
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Fillerguy said:
The question is easy... older men. I think this article fundamentally flawed but illuminates many of the dating issues for young men and women. I'll highlight the important bits.


TLDR; Women changed. Society changed. Men haven't and are suffering because of it.

Most young men are single. Most young women are not.









The most important part of these studies and the answer to the thread's question:
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The article talking points are disingenuous.

Women want a manly man when there's tough shyt to do (get the car fixed, kill bugs, take out the garbage etc) but an emotionally available/softer kind of man that doesn't try to dominate them.

The education/money thing DOES matter but the quiet part is that they want him to be attractive. So broads want a relatively small group of men with endless options.

Nowadays, women either want a man that checks 90% of the boxes or no man at all. There's nothing inherently wrong with that but men haven't caught up. Women have lots of friends, hobbies and expanded social networks. They can use vibrators and horny hot guys when they need an orgasm. Men can't buy heauxs legally....

Women have no incentive to settle so they chase unicorn men or just "wait it out." Only thing men can do is level up and either find a special woman or join passport gang.
 
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Men are struggling to provide these days. While women are getting more and more choosy because they provide for themselves. It's just that simple.

Young men would be a lot happier if they got prostitutional legalized and stopped bothering with dating and marriage
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If they got sex that was purely transactional, prostitute deaths would skyrocket.

Social media has killed the dating scene. Women have backed men into corners with their unreasonable expectations and men have just given up.
 
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