Whoopi says the Holocaust wasnt about race...“2 groups of white people"

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I thought folks were getting killed and put in gas chambers cause they weren't pure white


Wouldn't that be about race or ethnicity or something
 

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I’d say this is a case of her just being stupid, not “insidious.” It’s also an example of how stupid a lot intersectional arguments are. Nazi ideology did not view the world from a perspective of whiteness or white supremacy. They viewed the world as separated by those who were Aryan - superior man, most intelligent, etc - and non-Aryans. Which included a whole lot of “white people” like Jews and Slavs (Russia).

Nazis literally believed Jews, black people, Slavs, and gypsies were subhuman compared to the euro centric Aryan race. So yes it was about race…just not race in the American sense (all white people on one side, all black people on another side, etc). Hell this is more like fantasy world concepts of race where you have humans as one race and elves as another race.

Really, it was ethnicity. Their group of white people were better than everyone else's group of white people. And they wanted to elevate themselves to "a race". No, I don't think she's stupid at all. I think she's not falling for the word games. Which is really smart of her.
 
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I don't understand the outrage when Whoopi wasn't lying, she's correct :yeshrug:.

Jews are just a different kind of White but they are still White and are a part of the same tree of Cacs worldwide.

At the end of the day, they are all cacs no matter the race, the religion they rep, or the country they reside from.

They are all a part of the CAC FAMILY TREE.
 
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You do know some Jews escaped persecution by simply claiming they're not Jewish, right?

Could a black slave just say "I'm actually white", and escape slavery? How about a lynching? What about going into colored vs white spaces in Jim Crow?

German Jews were a thing. They spoke German, were born in and lived in Germany their whole lives, and by all accounts were German. The only difference is that they were Jewish. That's why names like Baumgartner, Kaizer, Silberstein, etc exist.
what the actual fukk are you talking about :childplease:

I think you missed the entire point of my post. Prior to enslaved Africans arriving in the west, they were often captives of a different tribe, today we would say both parties were Black but that erases all important context because the reality is that although the captives and the captors shared skin color, they did not see each other as "the same" because of that detail. Flattening differing groups of people into one category because they share one attribute, skin color in this case, is simply incorrect.
 

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You do know there were thousands of black people that did? :francis:

That’s why they had people stand outside of establishments to catch “white passing” blacks.

Remember, race is a social construction.

they certainly tried. but i think you miss my point; i think it's much easier to drop a religion and its associated culture than it is to drop your skin color. those runaway slaves were a product of race mixing and had the "luck" of white passing. jews in germany were already white passing. they looked like any other german, pole, and russian. let's face it, it was an ethnic conflict, not a racial one.
 

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Some of these Black “activists” get under my skin. I like Whoopi as an actress but this ain’t it.
 
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