who's responsible for finishing maneuvers being needed 3x at ppv's?

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The answer is the four heavenly corners of AJPW. When they started having their prolonged Kings Road classics in the mid-to-late 90's the world started to follow suit.

The WWF/E guys just sort of missed the memo that this is cause for moveset evolution not repetition.
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In the WWF? Foley, Austin and Rock, right? I might be wrong but they were the first to start doing it in big matches IIRC. Then Angle, B*****, Jericho, Michaels and HHH followed suit and it was a wrap.

In Japan it was more normal because most finishers were common moves but once King's Road style took off shyt went to a whole other level. Then the indy guys started watching tapes from New Japan Jrs., Michinoku Pro and All Japans heavys and that hybrid style started.
 

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Kenta Kobashi, Toshiaki Kawada, Mitsuharu Misawa and to a lesser extent, Akira Taue were famous for putting long, "epic" style matches were they would kick out of finishers and made the crowd go apeshyt as they would never know when a match would end. Given how their moves weren't finishing shyt, they started coming up with new, devastating moves to end a match. They followed and made a style that Jumbo Tsuruta, Gen'ichiro Tenryu, Riki Choshu and Akira Maeda created, evolve.

In the US it wasn't about creating new moves but to repeat the same ones. Although that's not that accurate as repetition was also a big part of "King's Road style". The new moves Kobashi, Kawada, Misawa and Taue created were barely used, but when they were indeed hit, the match was over.

Yeah, it might sound complicated but it really isn't :manny:
 

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Kenta Kobashi, Toshiaki Kawada, Mitsuharu Misawa and to a lesser extent, Akira Taue were famous for putting long, "epic" style matches were they would kick out of finishers and made the crowd go apeshyt as they would never know when a match would end. Given how their moves weren't finishing shyt, they started coming up with new, devastating moves to end a match. They followed and made a style that Jumbo Tsuruta, Gen'ichiro Tenryu, Riki Choshu and Akira Maeda created, evolve.

In the US it wasn't about creating new moves but to repeat the same ones. Although that's not that accurate as repetition was also a big part of "King's Road style"

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Kenta Kobashi, Toshiaki Kawada, Mitsuharu Misawa and to a lesser extent, Akira Taue were famous for putting long, "epic" style matches were they would kick out of finishers and made the crowd go apeshyt as they would never know when a match would end. Given how their moves weren't finishing shyt, they started coming up with new, devastating moves to end a match. They followed and made a style that Jumbo Tsuruta, Gen'ichiro Tenryu, Riki Choshu and Akira Maeda created, evolve.

In the US it wasn't about creating new moves but to repeat the same ones. Although that's not that accurate as repetition was also a big part of "King's Road style". The new moves Kobashi, Kawada, Misawa and Taue created were barely used, but when they were indeed hit, the match was over.

Yeah, it might sound complicated but it really isn't :manny:

This post shows how frail my wrestling knowledge is :snoop:
 

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No matter what, there is always that one nikka that wants to credit the topic to Japan :russ:
 
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