Why are Kansas and Texas doing so badly, and California so well?

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Why are Kansas and Texas doing so badly, and California so well?
Why are Kansas and Texas doing so badly, and California so well?

California is now the capital of liberal America. Along with its neighbors Oregon and Washington, it will be a nation within a nation starting in January, when the federal government goes dark.

In contrast to much of the rest of the nation, Californians preferred Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump by nearly a 2-to-1 margin. That came to about 3 million votes. Californians also returned large Democratic majorities to the state legislature to work with a Democratic governor, and they sent a Democrat, Kamala Harris — part black, part Asian —to the U.S. Senate.

Californians also voted to extend a state tax surcharge on the wealthy and to adopt local housing and transportation measures, along with a slew of local tax increases and bond proposals.

In other words, California is the opposite of Trumpland.

The differences go deeper. For years, conservatives have been saying that a healthy economy depends on low taxes, few regulations and low wages.

At the one end of the scale are Kansas and Texas, with among the nation’s lowest taxes, fewest regulations and lowest wages.

At the other end is California, with among the nation’s highest taxes, especially on the wealthy; toughest regulations, particularly when it comes to the environment; most ambitious health care system, which insures more than 12 million poor Californians, in partnership with Medicaid; and high wages.

So, according to conservative doctrine, Kansas and Texas ought to be booming, and California ought to be in the pits.

Actually, it’s just the opposite.

For several years now, the rate of economic growth in Kansas has been the worst in the nation. Last year its economy actually shrank.

Texas hasn’t been doing all that much better. Its rate of job growth has been below the national average. The value of Texas exports has been dropping.

But what about so-called over-taxed, over-regulated, high-wage California?

California leads the nation in the rate of economic growth — more than twice the national average. If it were a separate nation, it would now be the sixth-largest economy in the world. Its population has surged to 39 million (up 5 percent since 2010).

California is home to the nation’s fastest-growing and most innovative industries — entertainment and high-tech. It incubates more startups than anywhere else in the world.

In other words, conservatives have it exactly backward.

Why are Kansas and Texas doing so badly, and California so well?

For one thing, taxes enable states to invest their people. The University of California is the best system of public higher education in America. Add in the state’s network of community colleges, state colleges and research institutions, and you have an unparalleled source of research and development, and a powerful engine of upward mobility.

California also provides services to a diverse population, including a large percentage of immigrants. Donald Trump’s stance on immigration notwithstanding, such diversity is a huge plus. Both Hollywood and Silicon Valley have thrived on the ideas and energies of new immigrants.

California’s regulations protect the public health and the state’s natural beauty, which also draws people to the state — including talented people who could settle anywhere.

Wages are high in California because the economy is growing so fast that employers have to pay more to attract workers. That’s not a bad thing. After all, the goal isn’t just growth. It’s a high standard of living.

In fairness, Texas’ problems are also linked to the oil bust. But that’s really no excuse because Texas has failed to diversify its economy. Here again, it hasn’t made adequate investments.

California is far from perfect. A housing shortage has driven rents and home prices into the stratosphere. Roads are clogged. Its public schools used to be the best in the nation but are now among the worst — largely because of a proposition approved by voters in 1978 that’s strangled local school financing. Much more needs to be done.

But overall, the contrast is clear. Economic success depends on tax revenues that go into public investments, and on regulations that protect the environment and public health. And true economic success results in high wages.

I’m not sure how Trumpland and California will co-exist in the coming years. (I’m already hearing murmurs of secession by Golden Staters, and of federal intrusion by the incipient Trump administration).

But so far, California gives lie to the conservative dictum that low taxes, few regulations and low wages are the keys economic success. Trumpland should take note.


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:mjlol: Trust liberal editorials brehs..... they have a point as far as Kansas but not Texas...and honestly comparing California to Kansas is disingenuous


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:mjlol: Trust liberal editorials brehs..... they have a point as far as Kansas but not Texas...and honestly comparing California to Kansas is disingenuous


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Stop being disingenuous. This graph is what? A snapshot of one year of people moving with no sources. AEP your better than this.
 
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Answer me this, why does San Francisco look so damn run down?

Even L.A. looks shabby.

For a state that's supposedly doing so well, why does the infrastructure look like it's crumbling.

California is falling apart; here's why

At that both L.A. and San Francisco are so expensive people can't even live there.

High cost of living, crumbling infrastructure, nothing to write home about at all.

I remember recently driving through San Francisco and asking myself why it looked like a favela. Seriously, wtf??

If Cali is doing so well, where is all the money going? Certainly not to fix up its crumbling cities. And if Cali is so progressive why is the rent so high and pricing out all the poor and colored folks?
 

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Stop being disingenuous. This graph is what? A snapshot of one year of people moving with no sources. AEP your better than this.

The source is right there

United van lines moving study
United tracks its customers’ state-to-state migration patterns each year. Out of the nearly 9,500 Illinois household shipments handled in 2015, 63.2 percent were outbound moves. Only New Jersey and New York fared worse, at 66.6 percent and 64.6 percent, respectively.

You can find an interactive map of United’s state-to-state migration patterns here, which includes reasons for customers’ inbound or outbound moves, such as retirement, job and lifestyle, among other things.

We also take a look at the latest domestic migration data from the U.S. Census Bureau, as well as an analysis by Truth in Accounting and the Center for Governmental Studies at Northern Illinois University.

Clearly you never heard of it but the moving study is one of the best sources of data as far as a states (and even countrys) economic health and well being...havent you ever heard that people vote with their feet

or follow the flies to find the shyt
 

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The source is right there

United van lines moving study


Clearly you never heard of it but the moving study is one of the best sources of data as far as a states (and even countrys) economic health and well being...havent you ever heard that people vote with their feet

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That's what I wanted. :salute:
 

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There is more than meets the eye in this article. It is actually an indictment of both parties. Sins of omission vs sins of commission.

The next 15 years or so will be very interesting.
 

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Kansas was ruined by the GOP the last few years with the tax cuts, the cuts to social services, education, etc. It's a fukking shid show.

California has a lot of good things going on but they have a ton of issues, cost of living, infrastructure, state govt has had budget issues

Everytime I go out of state... I'm appreciative of Maryland. We've gotten some decent public policy done but Annapolis has had issues with spending and not attracting business... Virginia has gotten a lot of businesses but it looks like some are coming in now
 
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Kansas was ruined by the GOP the last few years with the tax cuts, the cuts to social services, education, etc. It's a fukking shid show.

California has a lot of good things going on but they have a ton of issues, cost of living, infrastructure, state govt has had budget issues

Everytime I go out of state... I'm appreciative of Maryland. We've gotten some decent public policy done but Annapolis has had issues with spending and not attracting business... Virginia has gotten a lot of businesses but it looks like some are coming in now
As a fellow Marylander what are your thoughts on how Larry Hogan is doing as governor?
 

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As a fellow Marylander what are your thoughts on how Larry Hogan is doing as governor?

not bad, he cant do much due to the democratic dominated legislature but he's funded education for the most part and infrastructure... though he has done some ticky tack shid like witholding funds during budget arguments
 
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