Why aren’t white people called European Americans?

[Remy LeBreh]

Once we run a DNA test we have just as much a right to get granular with our heritage as any white american
I've got Irish friends who know as little about ireland as I do but they rep the country heavily all the same
We don't need to only label ourselves with what this country put on us, we can still tie into a larger legacy

 

[Cadillac]

African-American is the PC replacement for Black, Negro, Colored etc.

We are the biggest “Black” representation on earth in terms of visibility and so the terms we use get used In other places by guilt ridden whites when trying to have a name for black people.

So they’ll sometimes call non-American black people African-American because it’s PC.

the bolded i already know, but imma need some proof of this happening consistently to know this is a actual thing , that Euro Cacs and abroad are using "African American" for africans and nonADOS people

because i never seen anyone abroad ever bring this up that Cacs do this. your the first person i heard say this that they do this under this circumstance.

the other pretense i know of something like this is when they are purposely trying to be like us. which is why i mentioned it.

Well, White's established "America" so it makes sense.



"Native Americans" did not establish "America".

the idea of whites "establishing" america(or atleast doing it solo) is destroyed via slaves built it, and natives being here prior.
things like October 9th aint even christopher columbus day but indigenious day.

your take applies to Cacs, right wingers, etc and they of course gonna think that and that they are "defualt americans"

but of course the CAC troll with near -3,000 would post what you post.

 

[Starman]

the idea of whites "establishing" america(or atleast doing it solo) is destroyed via slaves built it,

Ehh...

Whites enslaved Blacks as manual labor to build the early American economy and architecture (we're owed reparations for that, btw). But that doesn't make America any less of a creation by those white men in 1776. For good or I'll, they founded this country. We got used in the process.

and natives being here prior.

Natives being on the land that became America does not mean Natives established or created America.

things like October 9th aint even christopher columbus day but indigenious day.

your take applies to Cacs, right wingers, etc and they of course gonna think that and that they are "defualt americans"

but of course the CAC troll with near -3,000 would post what you post.

I tell the truth as I see it, and it isn't always appreciated.

 

[Cadillac]

-3,000 swimming in red babble

it does lessen the creation of it being solely a "white mans creation" when the slaves here were the backbone of america and the reason the country exist. and it would cease to be had it not been for the slaves

A huge portion of cacs here even back then didnt do shyt in the creation and development of this country. whereas the slaves did being both the manual,skilled labor and the base and root for the economy

nvm the fact the america of today that has been "established"(a word you like to use) is hugely due to black americans from the voting, migration, cities having been found, to civil rights as 1776 America is not the same as 2023 America clearly.


Even cultural foundation like food and its big export of music is all by black americans. with the most popular man to come out of this country(Michael Jackson) being a Black man

and to go back on the initial topic, your answer that its about who "established" america is flawed in itself just in that paradox in regards to the topic.

Europeans "established" South Africa but when someone thinks of South African people they undoubtely think of Native south africans as the the "default" people not Dutch Europeans.. so clearly who "established" a country isnt the answer.

your wrong on both accounts either way

I tell the truth as I see it, and it isn't always appreciated.

i can easily guess that -3,000 rep comes from more stupidass white fantasies and lies you spread on here

how you aint banned idk, but im done. carry on with your trash posting.

 

[TRUEST]

Just an fyi. Not everything was planned. Some things just fell into place. And black people were especially affected because we not only look different, but back in the days that was the group new immigrants learned to hate and to distance themselves from.

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Always wondered this.

Blacks can go by Black American, African-American etc.

Whites will say white American. If they wanna get more specific, they'd say Italian American or Greek American.

Most of us in the diaspora are a mix of ethnicities from different countries, so saying "Senegalese-American" doesn't make sense...especially since most of us have roots in America for 300 years or more.

Plus...when our ancestors were taken, it wasn't from "Nigeria" since that land wasn't really called "Nigeria" back then. It would have been from the various kingdoms, empires and villages of West/Central Africa.

Another thing....."white" is a flexible term. It's purely political. Most Black Americans/ADOS have a shared history. We are united by that history. Most white people have different experiences. The British/Scottish immigrants had a different experience than Italians....who were different from Greeks or Polish or white Jews.

They are all "white" but their whiteness only exists as an opposition to Blackness. There's no shared identity or commonality. White in America = oppressor...that's it. It's not a true cultural identity but a flexible, adjustable category that shifts to maintain power and keep the people not on Team White in poverty and pain.

 

[Starman]

it does lessen the creation of it being solely a "white mans creation" when the slaves here were the backbone of america and the reason the country exist. and it would cease to be had it not been for the slaves

A huge portion of cacs here even back then didnt do shyt in the creation and development of this country. whereas the slaves did being both the manual,skilled labor and the base and root for the economy

We're just going to have to disagree. The founders of the country were white men. They waged war against other white men for independence. That first group f whites enslaved blacks, but that doesn't make black founders/creators/etc.. I don't know how else to say it.

nvm the fact the america of today that has been "established"(a word you like to use) is hugely due to black americans from the voting, migration, cities having been found, to civil rights as 1776 America is not the same as 2023 America clearly.

Okay, so according to you, there was a new America somewhere between 1776 and 2023? I'm not disagreeing yet.

When was this new America founded? And who founded it?

Even cultural foundation like food and its big export of music is all by black americans. with the most popular man to come out of this country(Michael Jackson) being a Black man

If you think I'm saying blacks never contributed to this country, you're wrong.

and to go back on the initial topic, your answer that its about who "established" america is flawed in itself just in that paradox in regards to the topic.

There is no paradox here.

Europeans "established" South Africa but when someone thinks of South African people they undoubtely think of Native south africans as the the "default" people not Dutch Europeans.. so clearly who "established" a country isnt the answer.

I don't know what people think. And I'm not all that familiar with South Africa. If you are, can you tell me if Whites were ever the majority there the way Whites were in America? If they were not, that might explain why people might view "South Africans" as Black Natives.

i can easily guess that -3,000 rep comes from more stupidass white fantasies and lies you spread on here

how you aint banned idk, but im done. carry on with your trash posting.

You hoping the mods bail you out, huh? Well, it wouldn't be the first time they put their thumb on the scale.

 

[Cadillac]

We're just going to have to disagree. The founders of the country were white men. They waged war against other white men for independence. That first group f whites enslaved blacks, but that doesn't make black founders/creators/etc.. I don't know how else to say it.

Cac babble,

Okay, so according to you, there was a new America somewhere between 1776 and 2023? I'm not disagreeing yet.

When was this new America founded? And who founded it?

It clearly is the case, and it doesnt take for it to go through a NEW America revolutionary war , or be a new sovereign state to be so

what america is back then to what it is today was paved, carved out and created by black americans

Take this as a example

America Wasn’t a Democracy, Until Black Americans Made It One (Published 2019)

Our founding ideals of liberty and equality were false when they were written. For generations, black Americans have fought to make them true.

www.nytimes.com

If you think I'm saying blacks never contributed to this country, you're wrong.

when your saying "whites created this country" you are. and ignoring how fundamental black americans contributions, = creation of this country.

without them there is no america.

There is no paradox here.

I don't know what people think. And I'm not all that familiar with South Africa. If you are, can you tell me if Whites were ever the majority there the way Whites were in America? If they were not, that might explain why people might view "South Africans" as Black Natives.

so your agreeing with my point then, and showing how dumb your rationale that "establishing the country" is not the reason why whites are percieved by some as "default americans"? why white Afrikkaners in SA are seen NOT as "default" SAers despite establishing SA which is what i said

Europeans "established" South Africa but when someone thinks of South African people they undoubtely think of Native south africans as the the "default" people not Dutch Europeans.. so clearly who "established" a country isnt the answer.

and that its population, that is why they do that


cause thats exactly what your doing right there in the bolded

thank you for playing cac

You hoping the mods bail you out, huh? Well, it wouldn't be the first time they put their thumb on the scale.

i havent called any mods, did you see me @ any?

ain't no bail out here

i am losing interest in this argument, and not really caring anymore. im whatever right now on this

your a in the red troll they let roam free. it is what it is.

 

[KingJay]

To some extent, that only applies to the "original" white american groups. Sometimes people do say Italian American or Irish American or stuff like that, I assume that being because they weren't white originally

that being said, it's not always still

 

[3rdWorld]

Because they're 100% fully aware they're Europeans..they don't deny it.

They even have NATO..an Europeans only organisation that covers all their security concerns.

 

[Art Barr]

African-American is a term that black elites popularized after the 1960s. White American elites didn’t do the same…

African American was never popularized by blacks. It is a slur and only because they forced it into existence is why it exists in America. I am black.


I know you were not cognitive. when this was forced on black people in America.
As your comment reads like you got it from reading the internet. Not actual relevant books about and written in a black lexicon.



Art Barr

 

[Contrefaire]

Because they learned that there was a net benefit to calling certain types just plain white since not all pale skinned Americans directly came from Europe and the term "European American" would alienate too many non-European people who would later help boost their numbers as Caucasians in the U.S. (see: Mexicans, Argentinians, Afghanis, Turks and other Arabs etc).

Back in the day it was WASPs (WHITE ANGLO-SAXON Protestants) vs Poles, Slavs, Italians, Irish, etc with clear distinctions and their own unique set of slurs yet slowly but surely they dropped those distinctions in favor of generic whiteness to fully embrace and encompass any and everyone who was non-black or not obviously "ethnic" looking (Asian, Indigenous, etc).

 

[ThrobbingHood]

Why aren’t white porn stars called “Ivory”?

 

[the elastic]