Why Black Men Don't Go To Church

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@LovelyDay , here's some good reading for you.

http://thyblackman.com/2011/12/16/why-black-men-dont-go-to-church/
  • There are way too many gays in leadership roles in black churches!
  • Men need discipline, not hugs and emotion.
  • Too much emphasis on tithes and offerings.

http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/why-brothers-dont-like-church-kerj/

At one time the church was a place for leadership and direction for the community, but as soon as church became a lucrative venture (i.e. the prosperity gospel), it became very hard to differentiate the hustlers on the street from the hustlers behind the pulpit. Black leadership from the church has in many instances abandoned the community for money. This has left black men cynical and distrusting of church, education and so-called community leaders. Hustlers specialize in being able to see another hustler from miles away. As fashionable as many preachers think they are, at the end of the day they come off as pulpit pimps, drawing the ire of black men.

http://www.womenpraymenprey.com

The Black Church - Where Women Pray Men Prey encourages you to examine the operation and purposes of modern black churches. You will learn how to assess the hidden messages being given to you in church by con men you trust with your spiritual salvation. Discover how abusive church practices can damage your psyche, normalizing mistreatment and abuse. Similar to a battered wife, millions of black women insist on maintaining an abusive relationship with church leaders intent on doing them nothing but harm.

Hear some uncomfortable truths about black churches and the men that run them!
  • The Game of Female Submission Exposed - How making women believe they must be submissive to men is part of the setup to gain control of your behavior and use you as prey!
  • How You are Being Brainwashed to Stay Single - Learn how listening to preachers that tell you to stay hidden and wait for God to bring a man may keep you single for the rest of your life, just like your Pastor wants!
  • The Dangers of Practicing "Churchianity" - Many black women go to church out of habit and blindly trust every word uttered from the lips of their pastor. This book provides insight into why certain Scriptures are hand-picked to manipulate you.
  • Why Group Think is Dangerous for Women - Brainwashed church women all talk the same, think the same, and expect the same things from men and life. This book tells you why group think is a powerful tool used by unscrupulous church leaders.
  • Sociopaths in Churches Revealed - Learn which behaviors your preacher exhibits that are what psychologists consider "antisocial personality disorder" - a psychological disorder that drains everyone they interact with physically, emotionally and financially.
  • How to Determine if You are in a Cult - Review this important checklist of dangerous attitudes, behaviors and actions of spiritual leaders which indicate your involvement in a cult.
  • How to Recognize a Child Sexual Predator in Church - Parents like to believe they can trust people in church because they are a Christian. This book explains why churches are magnets for sexual deviants and pedophiles.
  • Detailed Explanation of How Church is a Con Game - Religion is the #1 con game there is, and this book tells you in step-by-step detail how various cons are set up, executed and why women are specifically targeted.
  • Breakdown of the Pimp Game of Churching - How pimps and hookers on the street corners of America have the same dynamics in their relationships as pastors do with their stable of church women.
  • How the Improper Influence of Pastors Causes Divorce - The many issues a married woman with her pastor in her ear can create at home with her husband, which often lead to divorce.
  • What Going to Church Won't Do - Honest and logical examination of the cons of church-going that many black women either don't know or are afraid to acknowledge.
 
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This doesn't change that 70% of black men say religion is very important and therefore should be subjected to your statement that you directed towards religious black women.

I also see no stats on black make church attendance.
 

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http://thyblackman.com/2011/12/16/why-black-men-dont-go-to-church/comment-page-2/#comment-36613

Whats sad is that the church is full of women…some estimates say as high as 90% for most black churches…yet they can’t read whats going on around them to realize somethings terribly wrong. Why no brothers? And why what few brothers are present happen to be two snaps away from a trip over the rainbow? WHY ARE THERE SO FEW REAL MEN PRESENT???

I would be skeptical of any movement of any kind, especially a spiritual one, where few men were present. It smacks of a scam. Everyone knows you can’t have a serious movement of any kind without the support of men. Hell, even the women’s lib movement was basically planned by men from the CIA to destabilize the American family. But that’s a different topic for another day.

Think about it: what other type of venues are heavy with the ladies but light on men attending? Fashion shows, hair salons, nail shops, bullcrap fiction reading clubs. But you’ll notice these venues all have a strong GAY male presence. See a pattern here…?

But you know why these ladies see nothing wrong with the huge disparity in church attendance? Because they really believe black men are just too bad, wicked and evil to attend. They are those same Extra-Average Baggage-Laden Females I spoke about elsewhere that think this way. Instead of realizing that men simply recongnize game and refuse to participate, sisters think THEY know more than WE do. So they make church going a requirement for a husband; not chastity, integrity, masculinity and honor. Church attendance.

I’ve been to churches where the pastor actually told the majority female audience to leave their man if he doesn’t come to church! Imagine that!!! This dude tells you to leave your man, provider, confidant, protector, father of your kids, and for what reason? Because he doesn’t attend a female bridge club wrapped up in spiritual garb?! This is the hogwash that keeps real men far away from churches and so-called ‘saved’ black women. And they just don’t get it…
 

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http://thyblackman.com/2011/12/16/why-black-men-dont-go-to-church/comment-page-2/#comment-36571

when the leaders in your community are preachers (pimps) then you have a serious problem. and you definitely have a problem when our women idolize these figures as well….women in church are like groupies in concerts on these preachers…..waiting to let them bend them over….i’d rather go to a white church than a black one….damn all that hollering, amazing grace, negor spiritual shyt….too much c00n behavior for me….there’s only entertainment and not teaching….i would love for these churches be forced to release their rates of marriage in their churches….this to me would show whether this environment was good or not….if it’s not bringing men and women together then it’s not successful
 

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http://thyblackman.com/2011/12/16/why-black-men-dont-go-to-church/comment-page-2/#comment-36357

Speaking of the gash man…

I recently had a conversation with a young lady who is a ‘devout’ churchgoer. She shared her ‘dirty little secret’ with me: about how her and the pastor, who is single, had an ongoing sexual affair… for 7 years!

Now check the mindset here: this chick has been content to be the pastor’s sperm bank for seven years; no ring, no commitment, no promise of a future together. He would tell her things like “Its okay. God will forgive us.” And even though she had a bible and could clearly read, she went along with it.

She hears from another female in the church that the pastor been ‘laying hands’ on her too. So she gets angry, finally decides to conduct a little research, just to discover this dude been banging at least 25 different women in the SAME church! No condoms, no protection. And these weren’t all young chicks. According to her, some were well into their 30’s and 40’s. Amazing at the level of self-deception it took for these women to all agree to be this dude’s other chick.

But whenever we hear about the spreading of AIDS in the black community, everyone attempts to focus on the man, when its clear that black women are equally if not the greater culprits. Sisters be slinging coochy around like its going out of style. There’s another post on here somewhere talking about some pastor passing HIV around the church. But that can only happen if women are willing to open their legs to catch what he’s passing.

I go hard against the sisters and these weak kneed preachers because it takes one to make the other relevent. If there were no silly women projecting their fantasies onto pimping pastors, these degenerates wouldn’t have a pulpit to stand in. They would basically find a less harmful scam to run on folks, or simply square up and do the right thing and be a real true to the game preacher.

Too much false flagging going on in the church.

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@LovelyDay , here's some good reading for you.

Too many go to church to show off, rather than trying to seek actual help and a spiritual union........

You got churches out here where the preachers make sure to commit as much adultery once they're done raping your mind and pockets.....
 

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http://thyblackman.com/2011/12/16/why-black-men-dont-go-to-church/comment-page-1/#comment-16903

I contend that brothers don’t go to church more because our churches aren’t designed as places of worship FOR MEN. Everything about the way it’s set up and orchestrated is designed to play on the nurturing, communal sensibilities of females. Holding hands. Singing gospel love songs to Jesus. Emotionally driven preaching and yelling. Speaking of Jesus in terms that are purely feminine in nature.

“He’s the LOVER of my soul…Rock me in thine bosom Jesus…”

Men aren’t that keen on holding hands; especially with a strange dude. And singing about loving another man is outright uncomfortable…especially when half the dudes who are present on a Sunday morning look as if they’re already struggling with homosexuality.

Not saying that men shouldn’t love Jesus. But if your goal is to attract more men and not repel them, we should take note that we’re speaking to MEN when we talk about the Lord.

Which leads me to my next point: ninety percent of the teaching and preaching is geared to empower women. When the pastor typically speaks to the congregation, he almost always addresses the WOMEN. Check it out for yourself. The only difference is when he’s in a chastising tone; that’s when he usually addresses the men directly.

This is not done by accident. The insidious tone of feminism that has taken hold on the greater society has also crept unchecked into our churches. So now you have churches filled with a bunch of Ms. Independents, who are being catered to by pastors who desire to keep them coming and giving every Sunday.

In business you tend to cater to your demographic. This is also true for churches. Think about it from a purely financial standpoint: if 70 percent of the givers in your church are women, in order to keep the bills paid and extra money flowing in, you have to cater to THAT segment. It’s a tactic that works for making money. But it’s disastrous for nation-building.

What’s more, it has NOTHING to do with God, Christ, the bible or the Holy Spirit. It’s a worldly tactic used by many pastors to keep the churches full of giving, admiring, crying, singing and dancing women. And it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

Question for you: have you noticed the kind of suits many pastors wear nowadays? Bright yellow…red and black pin striped with red leather gators to match…zuit suits… Again: this ain’t by accident. These things are designed to impress easily impressionable women. It’s a tactic used by pimps when they’re out campaigning for new girls to fill their stables. And it too has crept unchecked into the churches. Not saying a pastor can’t look good. But there’s a fine line between looking good and drawing attention to YOURSELF and away from God.

You also said that black men don’t go to church because they ain’t really feeling a God they can’t see. But that doesn’t explain why black Muslim men worship a god faithfully that they can’t see either. Faithfully.

You also said black men don’t go to church because they got better things to do with their time. Again: Muslim men attend masjid for prayer FIVE TIMES A DAY when possible, and attend the larger gathering every Friday, come hell or high water. So obviously black men aren’t as time sensitive as you suggest.

The truth is: mature black men are a lot smarter than we’re given credit for. We don’t like scams, or anything that looks like a scam. We don’t like being played for a fool. And we definitely ain’t following anything that’s gay or anti-male. Misandry in the church has got to end!

In the military, when something goes wrong out in the field the higher ups don’t chastise the lowly recruit: they call the leadership to task. The reason why there’s so many gays at church is because true masculinity is lacking. And this has nothing to do with the quality of men attending: it has everything to do with the pastor’s style of leadership. Iron sharpens iron.

Real leaders replicate themselves in those who follow them. This is a sad commentary on what I see in churches as I travel the country, because it seems like all these modern day pastors are able to replicate are flaky women and queers.

You can’t get more masculine than the military. But gays now proliferate there too…because the LEADERSHIP allows them to openly represent their sexual preference for sleeping with men. The average recruit you talk to hates it. But the power to change things lies with those in charge, just as it always has. So demonizing men for NOT wanting to be in a place that’s obviously pro-gay, like many churches are, is a little disingenuous.

During the 50’s and 60’s, there were typically as many black men present in church as there were women. But something happened in the 70’s and 80’s that drastically changed all that: churches became decidedly pro-women’s lib and anti-male. Just like the world. They became lax on standards of holiness and allowed homosexuals who played good music to come in and take leadership roles. And once they did this, they forfeited their right to win the hearts and minds of true solid men.

Men exited churches in droves, and pastors found that by catering to women they could keep their bills paid and build a nice nest egg as well. If any men joined, that was a nice bonus; but the marketing (preaching, teaching, music and church decor) would remain decidedly feminine.

So yes, men will go out and drop crazy money on sporting events. Because it’s one of the last bastions of masculinity left in this godless nation. And considering how all these athletes are starting to wear PINK nowadays, I’m not sure how much longer that will last either.

BTW: the political system is BEYOND flawed. But votes are still necessary, especially at the local level where change will be felt at the most.

Great chopping it up with you bruh…

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