why do we continue to use the term wench to define some black women?

[CodeBlaMeVi]

knowing that black women were called wenches from slavery all the way through the Jim Crow era, why do we continue to use that term on here to define women? Regardless of whom they choose to sleep with, why can't we respect them enough to not use the same bullshyt against them that the white slaveowners used to justify their rape en masse?
White slave owners called them wenches and justified the rape of black women because of a supposed insatiable sexual appetite, due to the hyper sexuality of the black man and the black race as a whole.

All I am saying is that although I hate when black women put black men down to glorify white men, I am not going to perpuate the white man's hate and label them as wenches. This is a term that has been thrown around way too much in history and that I don't think people on here grasp the hate that the word entails.

You mean like the noun, ******? Turned to nikka as a word of endearment?

 

[CN793]

Just yesterday it was all men who date out were sell out and c00ns regardless of why they did it. Why not black women as well?

I never said that, ever. I don't think you're anc00n for dating out, I don't think you're a sellout either. I think you're living your life as you want to live it, and loving who you want to love. Black men dating white women never bothered me, ever. I have uncles who were Black panther affiliated who dated white women and had biracial children. Never would I personally ever call anyone who dates our a sellout.

Must have been someone else. That's never been my stance.

 

[CN793]

Define real pro black?

And do you extend your laws of attraction logic to Black men who find light skinned or White women attractive?

Light skinned black women are still black women. If a black man fell in lovenwith a white women who am I to feel any type of way about that? Never have, and never will feel any way about black people in interracial relationships. That's none of my business, none of my concern and it doesn't bother me one bit.

 

[Biscayne]

Light skinned black women are still black women. If a black man fell in lovenwith a white women who am I to feel any type of way about that? Never have, and never will feel any way about black people in interracial relationships. That's none of my business, none of my concern and it doesn't bother me one bit.

Well, you got me there.



I have Black women in my family(quite a few) who married out and had kids. It didn't bother me because I was really young when it happened, and plus I just love all of my cousins. Buuuuut, too many Black men and women who do date out can't do so without disparaging the opposite gender within their race. While on the flip side, Whites who date Blacks just do so and keep their mouths shut. It's like the Blacks in those relationships treat their White spouse like a prize, while that feeling is unrequited. But whatever I guess....

 

[jwonder]

It's such a horrible and degrading word that does nothing but insult our female ancestors.

That's what some of them are acting like though. If the shoe fits, lace it up.

 

[Shadow King]

Bedwenches and c00ns/bedbucks exist but the words are thrown around here too often.

 

[Anahita]

That's what some of them are acting like though. If the shoe fits, lace it up.

First and foremost, we need to discuss what a bedwench actually was. It was a black female slave whose sole purpose was to be raped by her owner. She chose nothing about the situation; it was forced upon her. She didn't worship white men, she didn't value white men over black men, she literally was designated by her masters to be a rapeable object. Where there black women who has consensual relationships with white men in the antebellum south? Yes. Most notably the quadroon Creoles of Louisiana. But the bedwench was not one of them. If the quadroon mistress was at the top of the interracial food chain, then the bedwench was unquestionably at the bottom. She was a receptacle for whites to enter all of their sick, sexual perversions into. Nothing in this situation is comparable to a black woman in 2016 choosing of her own free will to have a consensual relationship with a white man. It does not even accurately describe a black woman who hates black men and puts them down in favor of white men because bedwenches never even did that! The only reason the term is used is because it's an ugly, vicious slur hurled at black women to degrade them. This isn't a reclaimed term like the n-word, girl, or boy. There's no attempt to flip it from it's original viciousness. It's used in the exact same way for the exact same reasons white men used it: to control and dehumanize black women. Let's keep it real, all a black woman has to do to be considered a bedwench on TheColi is to be seen standing next to a white man. It has nothing to do with the woman's attitude towards black men; simply being in proximity to a white man is enough to get her labeled a race traitor. Long story short, Coli brehs need to stop taking history lessons from Django Unchained and start reading some damned books.

 

[jwonder]

First and foremost, we need to discuss what a bedwench actually was. It was a black female slave whose sole purpose was to be raped by her owner. She chose nothing about the situation; it was forced upon her. She didn't worship white men, she didn't value white men over black men, she literally was designated by her masters to be a rapeable object. Where there black women who has consensual relationships with white men in the antebellum south? Yes. Most notably the quadroon Creoles of Louisiana. But the bedwench was not one of them. If the quadroon mistress was at the top of the interracial food chain, then the bedwench was unquestionably at the bottom. She was a receptacle for whites to enter all of their sick, sexual perversions into. Nothing in this situation is comparable to a black woman in 2016 choosing of her own free will to have a consensual relationship with a white man. It does not even accurately describe a black woman who hates black men and puts them down in favor of white men because bedwenches never even did that! The only reason the term is used is because it's an ugly, vicious slur hurled at black women to degrade them. This isn't a reclaimed term like the n-word, girl, or boy. There's no attempt to flip it from it's original viciousness. It's used in the exact same way for the exact same reasons white men used it: to control and dehumanize black women. Let's keep it real, all a black woman has to do to be considered a bedwench on TheColi is to be seen standing next to a white man. It has nothing to do with the woman's attitude towards black men; simply being in proximity to a white man is enough to get her labeled a race traitor. Long story short, Coli brehs need to stop taking history lessons from Django Unchained and start reading some damned books.

Talk about reading books. You need to take your funky ass back to school and learn how to use paragraphs.

 

[Reflected]

I have never used the word, also never used any of the words commonly used to here to demean other black people. Personally, if you are a traitor, you simply are that, I have no reason to go out of my way and worry about someone that doesn't even care about their own well being. But let me ask you something, what should you call them? Isn't degradation the intention of the word? There are degrading words thrown from both sides, why didn't you also target those words? It's most likely because you are looking to appeal towards a specific demographic. Threads like this are completely pointless and they are probably created every month. You aren't going to change anyone's opinion on the word and you damn sure aren't going to bring an end to the use of the word on this forum without some type rule being set in place. If you want daps, I can give you one, reps, that too. If what you really wanted was a discussion about bringing an end to a word used to degrade black women, this is not the place to do so.

 

[Canon]

why so protective over women who think the worst of black men?

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

If you're offended by the word bedwench, then my mission is accomplished.

I intended to hurt you're feelings. I'm trying to be disrespectful.

That's the whole damn point.

fukk your femenist sense of morality. I don't play respectability politics. The conservative nor the liberal kind.

Shaming tactics don't work on me

Exactly. These PC muthafukkas need to get the fukk on.

And ther term wench is still most definitely applicable. People who feel the need to marry a non black due to some ignorant self hating ideology need to be labeled for who they are. Nearly every culture does this, yet only blacks feel these types should be embraced. FOH. The problem is blacks don't value their own culture so people choosing to eschew the culture who "paler" pastures are looked at as having "made it" by other confused blacks. It's sad and pathetic at the same damn time.

I'm all for people speaking more plainly and even curse, as you'll get to know how people really feel. fukk all this fakeness

This liberal PC bull shyt is part of the reason blacks are so soft and fractured now.

 

[FoolinLikeABitvh]

Talk about reading books. You need to take your funky ass back to school and learn how to use paragraphs.

nikka talkin bout "First & Foremost"

 

[Gravity]

First and foremost, we need to discuss what a bedwench actually was. It was a black female slave whose sole purpose was to be raped by her owner. She chose nothing about the situation; it was forced upon her. She didn't worship white men, she didn't value white men over black men, she literally was designated by her masters to be a rapeable object. Where there black women who has consensual relationships with white men in the antebellum south? Yes. Most notably the quadroon Creoles of Louisiana. But the bedwench was not one of them. If the quadroon mistress was at the top of the interracial food chain, then the bedwench was unquestionably at the bottom. She was a receptacle for whites to enter all of their sick, sexual perversions into. Nothing in this situation is comparable to a black woman in 2016 choosing of her own free will to have a consensual relationship with a white man. It does not even accurately describe a black woman who hates black men and puts them down in favor of white men because bedwenches never even did that! The only reason the term is used is because it's an ugly, vicious slur hurled at black women to degrade them. This isn't a reclaimed term like the n-word, girl, or boy. There's no attempt to flip it from it's original viciousness. It's used in the exact same way for the exact same reasons white men used it: to control and dehumanize black women. Let's keep it real, all a black woman has to do to be considered a bedwench on TheColi is to be seen standing next to a white man. It has nothing to do with the woman's attitude towards black men; simply being in proximity to a white man is enough to get her labeled a race traitor. Long story short, Coli brehs need to stop taking history lessons from Django Unchained and start reading some damned books.

This is a bunch bullshyt. Words don't dehumanized you, actions do. White men using the term "bed wench" to describe black women they forced to have sex wasn't dehumanizing, white men raping black women was what was dehumanizing. This fake outrage over words is nothing but a deflection.

There's no word associated with more historical context than the word "slave". Yet there's (usually)no fake outrage over the use of that word. Stop with the fake outrage get the term bed wench because the shyt is see through. The term is clearly being used in a different context than it was used during slavery. Obviously black women aren't being raped like they were back in slavery and are now voluntarily thirsting to be with the same men who have a long distinct history of raping and dehumanizing them in every way. That's what makes it even worse.

The term bed wench should be a slur used to disrespect because the act of black women thirsting after white boys is disrespectful. The black women that went at black men to defend that cracker from Howard who's clearly exploiting their low self esteem and thirst for white male acceptance were disrespectful. The young black girl who allowed herself to be played by the white boy asking her to the prom using a KFC theme was disrespectful. The constant pro-swirl propaganda promoted by black women is disrespectful. Let's stop focusing on the words and start focusing on the actions. Love isn't blind, you have control over who you do and don't allow yourself to fall in love. You even have control over whether you act in your feelings or not. White men have "loved" fukking black women since they brought the slaves here but they never allowed their love of fukking black women to get in the way of them marrying and having children with white women. You talk that "love is blind you can't help who you love" shyt while white men are clear proof that it isn't.

 

[raoulduke187]

I prefer the terms slut hoe bytch tramp whore