Why do we keep saying West won WWII when Stallingrad is what caused Germany to Fall?
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I guess because we rode on Japan 
They would've fought eventually. I mean Poland was supposed to be a divided buffer region, The Soviets made moves to incorporate it into the Soviet union.That war is what caused Germany to fall. If Hitler never fought Russia, who knows what type of world we might be in now
One where Palestine might be thriving but the rest of the world suffers immenselyThat war is what caused Germany to fall. If Hitler never fought Russia, who knows what type of world we might be in now
and japan doesn't get the testosterone blasted out of their male population and ends up locking down that whole corner of the globe
life is cruel...
World War II Allies: U.S. Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union, 1941-1945
Even before the United States entered World War II in December 1941, America sent arms and equipment to the Soviet Union to help it defeat the Nazi
ru.usembassy.gov
Without this ^^^ and the west opening/threatening a 2nd front during the entirety of the war, outcome would have been different. Took BOTH the West and USSR to curb stomp Germany which is amazing
/ThreadWorld War II Allies: U.S. Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union, 1941-1945
Even before the United States entered World War II in December 1941, America sent arms and equipment to the Soviet Union to help it defeat the Nazi
Without this ^^^ and the west opening/threatening a 2nd front during the entirety of the war, outcome would have been different. Took BOTH the West and USSR to curb stomp Germany which is amazing
But shout out to those Soviets they were gutter with it on the Eastern Front
Germany could not win WWII.
They needed to completely pacify France, keep Italy from fukking up, win in Northern Africa, push *past* Stalingrad to the oil fields to the south, somehow get around the fact they were getting crushed at sea, and somehow manufacture a second industrial revolution to solve their armor/airframe attrition problems.
They just lose or lose later really.
They needed to completely pacify France, keep Italy from fukking up, win in Northern Africa, push *past* Stalingrad to the oil fields to the south, somehow get around the fact they were getting crushed at sea, and somehow manufacture a second industrial revolution to solve their armor/airframe attrition problems.
They just lose or lose later really.
Damn how did you get that out of that?
Personally I think that lets say Germany never invaded Russia and that meant that the US never got in even though they got in because Japan invaded.
Then more than likely Palestine would be in Jordan today.
one thing the Isrealis are right about Palestine is a made up concept that never existed before the small hats got them partially out of the way.
When the Arab riots happened in '36 ( notice it's not the Palestian riots) they didn't have the concept of a separate country it was part of general Arab self determination.
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That was 80 years ago and the Russians didn't beat them-- the weather conditions didThat war is what caused Germany to fall. If Hitler never fought Russia, who knows what type of world we might be in now
Yes Germany needed overwhelming overmatch in forces to lose, frankly there was no long term way they could've won unless the States refused to fight and Japan didn't bomb Pearl HarborWorld War II Allies: U.S. Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union, 1941-1945
Even before the United States entered World War II in December 1941, America sent arms and equipment to the Soviet Union to help it defeat the Nazi
Without this ^^^ and the west opening/threatening a 2nd front during the entirety of the war, outcome would have been different. Took BOTH the West and USSR to curb stomp Germany which is amazing
But what Germany was able to do with the little Bohemian Corporal running the show was amazing.
CashmereThoughts
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The win was FDR putting out them demo tapes on Nagasaki and Hiroshima 4 years before anyone else could display similar capabilities.That war is what caused Germany to fall. If Hitler never fought Russia, who knows what type of world we might be in now
Hitler was going to lose that war regardless based of ego, incompetence and terrible manufacturing decisions
No they beat them
Operation Bagration - Wikipedia
but yeah the weather, Hitler making decisions, and choking on the cannon fodder Russia was down to give was really what did it.
After Stalingrad People started to see that Germany wasn't invincible.
Nah the Russians definitely whooped that ass too
that's really just the cliff notes version they feed people in grade school. Russia had time to re-posture and prepare after Greece forced Germany to come bail out the Italians.
CashmereThoughts
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Napoleon did that so hopefully nazi Germany ain’t have to go through that.
Hitler was gone crash out regardless
