Why does the coli promote political illiteracy?

[chico25]

We do need to vote locally, I just don't get my hopes up with these politicians they're not gonna do shyt for me. I'd rather focus on getting my bread up. Hopefully 5, 10, 15 years down the line I will be far enough in my career to help fund black owned think tanks who can lobby these c00ns for our benefit.

This is the only way to get shyt done in this country, money deads all bullshyt. Black folks don't have organized money backing a political agenda, this is why voting is pointless in our current situation.

If we had kept the ball rolling in the 60's and stayed on that black power wave and kept our money/business/political agenda's in house, then we'd have a leg to stand on. But we didn't so now the black vote in the presidential election is nothing more than a kind gesture for Democrats who will end up gentrifying our neighborhoods

Willing to beat this post will either get ignored or twisted into some complete bullshyt...

Black people as a group are not currently in a position to change the system in a major way. That is not going to change by not being involved in the system at all. Right now what we need to be doing is starting the lobbying groups and deciding what we want politicians to do for us. I keep hearing the question what has Obama or politician X done for black people or what are they going to do for black people. When I ask back what they want done I get no response. Our vote doesn't matter because we sell it cheap with no requests attached to it. Does that mean we should stop voting? No, it means we have to look at the promises being made by politicians and vote based on those and hold them to those promises. It means we have to get together and decide what we want and let them know that we are serious about those things so that 5, 10, or 15 years down the line when have the money to put behind what we want the groundwork has already been laid.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

The opening of the last paragraph doesn't have shyt to do with Obama. Black wealth was eliminated because most middle and upper middle class families (of all races) largest asset is their home. And the housing market crashed in 2007, essentially wiping out majority of their wealth. This was true for white people too, but they have up to 20 times more wealth than black people.

Also if you think the concept of "money + politics = change" is going away you are the FOOL here. Money is America's God. And it aint going anywhere. And Campaign Finance Reform has been something BOTH parties have been trying to do for years since Citizens United v. the FEC. As long as Super PACs can out fund people with clandestine donations and advertisements all that bullshyt you just talked about "the rules changing" is just that, bullshyt.

If you think Trump doesn't have a Super PAC behind him ready to go in the General election you are beyond a fool. Seriously, this is one of the most poorly thought out "smart dumb" posts in this thread.

How did some of you pass Government class in high school?

Dont talk to me about education. I guarantee I'm far more formally and informally educated than you. And also I gaurantee im more successful. Everyone knows the majority of black wealth was tied to thier homes. Historically blacks also have been largely employed by the public sector as well.. why do think conservatives want to elimate govt jobs so bad. They are attacking from all angles and folks like you still think you can win in a game designed for you to lose.

Black wealth was eliminated on Obamas watch while he is still cheesing saying the country is doing great. That's a fact. I never said he alone directly caused it.. im talking about his lack of a real direct response to it since he is in office. For any other group it would be a state of emergency all hands on deck to address the issue. Under white supremacy its just the way it is. Blacks on the bottom is normal.

And Maybe you should have paid more attention in your history class cause my point was not that money + politics is going away today .. my point was that if blacks smartened up and started using their money to try to influence politics more they would do anything and everything to eliminate blacks ability to have influence. History has proven this to be true. Cacs will chose racism and keeping blacks on the bottom over money and even their own self interest 99% of the time. Trumps success is a product of that. The current republican party is a product of that.

 

[MajorVitaman]

Black people as a group are not currently in a position to change the system in a major way. That is not going to change by not being involved in the system at all. Right now what we need to be doing is starting the lobbying groups and deciding what we want politicians to do for us. I keep hearing the question what has Obama or politician X done for black people or what are they going to do for black people. When I ask back what they want done I get no response. Our vote doesn't matter because we sell it cheap with no requests attached to it. Does that mean we should stop voting? No, it means we have to look at the promises being made by politicians and vote based on those and hold them to those promises. It means we have to get together and decide what we want and let them know that we are serious about those things so that 5, 10, or 15 years down the line when have the money to put behind what we want the groundwork has already been laid.

We need to just create our own think tanks

@Always-Right Liggins did make a great point though. The simple fact that world population keeps rising shows that gay people are statistically an extreme minority on the planet. Yet they showed us perfectly how to gather resources and push it to a specific cause. They made a very conservative country completely flip in less than a generation.

Our situation isn't as hopeless as I initially thought, we just need to unify as black people and get on the same page consistently.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

Dont talk to me about education. I guarantee I'm far more formally and informally educated than you. And also I gaurantee im more successful. Everyone knows the majority of black wealth was tied to thier homes. Historically blacks also have been largely employed by the public sector as well.. why do think conservatives want to elimate govt jobs so bad. They are attacking from all angles and folks like you still think you can win in a game designed for you to lose.

Black wealth was eliminated on Obamas watch while he is still cheesing saying the country is doing great. That's a fact. I never said he alone directly caused it.. im talking about his lack of a real direct response to it since he is in office. For any other group it would be a state of emergency all hands on deck to address the issue. Under white supremacy its just the way it is. Blacks on the bottom is normal.

And Maybe you should have paid more attention in your history class cause my point was not that money + politics is going away today .. my point was that if blacks smartened up and started using their money to try to influence politics more they would do anything and everything to eliminate blacks ability to have influence. History has proven this to be true. Cacs will chose racism and keeping blacks on the bottom over money and even their own self interest 99% of the time. Trumps success is a product of that. The current republican party is a product of that.

Breh, this is a classic way to get people to not give two shyts about your argument....this nikka literally STARTED his post with an ad hominem....you can at least give me the information first. "oh i make more money than you". fukk outa here with that high school ass attack, breh.

But explain to me how he was supposed to DIRECTLY, HIMSELF, AS King President Barack Obama, First of his Name, Protector of the Realm and the First Men was supposed to address it? Hmm?

Sign executive order to give even more loans to black people specifically? ...nah breh that woulda made it worse.
Offer to buy out the mortgages of those sub-prime homes? Don't have the money nor the precedent nor would the GOP have allowed it.
Create a second wave of public housing? We saw were the first wave got us...

All hands on deck? breh the power elite don't give two fukks about poor whites either.

For all your "education" and "success" i'm not hearing a fukking solution or an attempt to educate these brothers on this site.

Until then PLEASE take this warm and fuzzy shut the fukk up and carry on.